Need some advice off line. I dismantled my M-15 kick up rudder to repair a damaged trailing edge. Can't remember how all the parts go back together. Someone please contact me. Need pictures and/or video. kdocter@bellsouth.net
Good morning, The same thing happened to me. If our fellow Montgomery owners respond, please pass their advice to me. Thanks. RTH. -----Original Message----- From: kdocter Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 11:35 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Need advice offline Need some advice off line. I dismantled my M-15 kick up rudder to repair a damaged trailing edge. Can't remember how all the parts go back together. Someone please contact me. Need pictures and/or video. kdocter@bellsouth.net _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!
Hopefully someone will send a pix, but maybe I can talk you thru it. I don't have a camera handy, but I'm sitting here with Sal's 15 rudder in my lap. When I was building 15's I was the guy who put them together, so I can do it in my sleep. There are two countersunk holes in the plates; these go on the inside of the plates. You should have 7 compression tubes, counting the ones in the rudder and tiller. We used mostly hex head bolts, but the inner bolts on the two pintles are machine screws; the flat heads go on the lower pintle (the short one), in the countersinks, and the round heads go in the inner holes on the top pintle. You should also have the pushrod and the two toggles, one on the tiller and one on the rudder, and the 2"screws that fasten the toggle to the rudder and the machine screws that fasten the toggle to the tiller. You also need the two clevis pins that fasten the rod to the toggles. The first thing to do is to assemble the box, without the pintles, the tiller, and the rudder. Obviously, put the HH bolts thru the plates, not forgetting the compression tubes. Tighten them up snugly. Next, install the pintles and tighten them, remembering to put the compression tubes on the outer bolts. Install the toggles on the R&T, and if you want them to stay tight, bed them in polyurethane or epoxy. String them together with the rod, and slide them into position in the box and bolt them up. I don't remember the length, but you need a pc of 3/8 bungee; probably the most convenient way to get it w/o buying a whole spool is to go to a building supply store and just buy a bungee and cut to length. It needs to be pretty tight to hold up the rudder in the up position. Good luck! jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Hall" <bert.hall@rogers.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:21 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Need advice offline
Good morning, The same thing happened to me. If our fellow Montgomery owners respond, please pass their advice to me. Thanks. RTH.
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Need some advice off line. I dismantled my M-15 kick up rudder to repair a damaged trailing edge. Can't remember how all the parts go back together. Someone please contact me. Need pictures and/or video. kdocter@bellsouth.net _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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Thank you for the rudder assembly talk through. Will read it a couple more times and then have a go . .............................rth. -----Original Message----- From: jerry Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 12:32 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Need advice offline Hopefully someone will send a pix, but maybe I can talk you thru it. I don't have a camera handy, but I'm sitting here with Sal's 15 rudder in my lap. When I was building 15's I was the guy who put them together, so I can do it in my sleep. There are two countersunk holes in the plates; these go on the inside of the plates. You should have 7 compression tubes, counting the ones in the rudder and tiller. We used mostly hex head bolts, but the inner bolts on the two pintles are machine screws; the flat heads go on the lower pintle (the short one), in the countersinks, and the round heads go in the inner holes on the top pintle. You should also have the pushrod and the two toggles, one on the tiller and one on the rudder, and the 2"screws that fasten the toggle to the rudder and the machine screws that fasten the toggle to the tiller. You also need the two clevis pins that fasten the rod to the toggles. The first thing to do is to assemble the box, without the pintles, the tiller, and the rudder. Obviously, put the HH bolts thru the plates, not forgetting the compression tubes. Tighten them up snugly. Next, install the pintles and tighten them, remembering to put the compression tubes on the outer bolts. Install the toggles on the R&T, and if you want them to stay tight, bed them in polyurethane or epoxy. String them together with the rod, and slide them into position in the box and bolt them up. I don't remember the length, but you need a pc of 3/8 bungee; probably the most convenient way to get it w/o buying a whole spool is to go to a building supply store and just buy a bungee and cut to length. It needs to be pretty tight to hold up the rudder in the up position. Good luck! jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Hall" <bert.hall@rogers.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:21 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Need advice offline
Good morning, The same thing happened to me. If our fellow Montgomery owners respond, please pass their advice to me. Thanks. RTH.
-----Original Message----- From: kdocter Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 11:35 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Need advice offline
Need some advice off line. I dismantled my M-15 kick up rudder to repair a damaged trailing edge. Can't remember how all the parts go back together. Someone please contact me. Need pictures and/or video. kdocter@bellsouth.net _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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