I'd like to see your set up for a jib down haul and do you guys feel it's that important to dose the jib in heavy weather using one. Also do you have pictures of your set up for a down haul for the main sail and a boom vang set up. How important is a boom vang when you have your main sheet attachment is that close to boom center anyway? Lastly what modifications did you need to make to add a reacher to your small boat and is a reacher better or a light air genny with a pole better. Thanks for any input you have and please forward any pic's to my home e-mail. Smiley and Karen magoo252@comcast.net
The ability to douse the jib in heavy weather is essential. The question is how comfortable are you going forward, no matter what, to do it? If there is a limit to what you will risk, then a downhaul is option B. The trade off is you now have one more line to manage and potentially to foul......and heavy weather is when it will foul. I've tried it both ways and have decided I will go forward......no matter what. The main should drop on its own. If not, the downhaul is me, standing by the mast, hanging on with one hand and hauling on the luff and slides with the other. Even with a traveler, a boom vang helps keep the main in shape off the wind vs. twisting off. The vang I use has snap shackles on both ends, so serves double duty as a preventer. But I've also got an older boat with the metal toe rails and all those wonderful attachment points. You might gain a bit of additional speed with something larger than a big genny, but unless you are racing and have crew to help you manage it, probably not worth the effort. A whisker pole is essential. Don't leave home without it. BTW, I'm talking M17. A reacher on an M15 might be a different story. On Apr 10, 2011, at 9:22 AM, Karen and Smiley wrote:
I'd like to see your set up for a jib down haul and do you guys feel it's that important to dose the jib in heavy weather using one. Also do you have pictures of your set up for a down haul for the main sail and a boom vang set up. How important is a boom vang when you have your main sheet attachment is that close to boom center anyway? Lastly what modifications did you need to make to add a reacher to your small boat and is a reacher better or a light air genny with a pole better. Thanks for any input you have and please forward any pic's to my home e-mail.
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jib down haul and do you guys feel it's that important to dose the jib in heavy weather using one.
i used one on my 15 in all weather.
How important is a boom vang
as you say with the mid-boom sheeting not all that important when going to weather. you NEED a vang when off the wind to keep that boom down.
a light air genny with a pole better.
yes. the large main loves to collapse the little jib when off the wind. means you need a pole. if you choose to have a larger than 130%-ish headsail you will need to add a jib-car track on the toe-rail. a large headsail will not sheet inside the shrouds. a larger headsail will help in light winds. remember, with the difference in sheeting angle you will loose some ability to point into the wind. :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.us --- On Sun, 4/10/11, Karen and Smiley <magoo252@comcast.net> wrote:
I'd like to see your set up for a jib down haul and do you guys feel it's that important to dose the jib in heavy weather using one. Also do you have pictures of your set up for a down haul for the main sail and a boom vang set up. How important is a boom vang when you have your main sheet attachment is that close to boom center anyway? Lastly what modifications did you need to make to add a reacher to your small boat and is a reacher better or a light air genny with a pole better. Thanks for any input you have and please forward any pic's to my home e-mail.
Smiley and Karen
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I had a downhaul on my M15 jib and would no go without it. If rigged properly it is very unlikely to foul. ~~~_/)~~~ Gary Sent from my iPhone :-) On Apr 10, 2011, at 7:22 AM, Karen and Smiley <magoo252@comcast.net> wrote:
I'd like to see your set up for a jib down haul and do you guys feel it's that important to dose the jib in heavy weather using one. Also do you have pictures of your set up for a down haul for the main sail and a boom vang set up. How important is a boom vang when you have your main sheet attachment is that close to boom center anyway? Lastly what modifications did you need to make to add a reacher to your small boat and is a reacher better or a light air genny with a pole better. Thanks for any input you have and please forward any pic's to my home e-mail.
Smiley and Karen
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The trick to making a jib downhaul work is to tie (snap) the sail end of it NOT to the head of the sail but one hank down from the head. Then weave the downhaul line back and forth between hanks to a turning block at the tack of the jib, then aft from the block to the cockpit so that you can pull the jib down from the cockpit. You may need some fairleads between the bow and the cockpit. ~~~_/)~~~ Gary ☺ On Apr 10, 2011, at 7:22 AM, Karen and Smiley wrote:
I'd like to see your set up for a jib down haul and do you guys feel it's that important to dose the jib in heavy weather using one. Also do you have pictures of your set up for a down haul for the main sail and a boom vang set up. How important is a boom vang when you have your main sheet attachment is that close to boom center anyway? Lastly what modifications did you need to make to add a reacher to your small boat and is a reacher better or a light air genny with a pole better. Thanks for any input you have and please forward any pic's to my home e-mail.
Smiley and Karen
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