I'm pretty pleased with how Busca's new cushions have turned out. The extra inch of thickness should make for some GOOD sleeping, as between that and the fact that the foam is 18 yrs newer I no longer bottom out. Jerry must've used the GOOD Quality foam for them to last that long. And the covers were just BEGINNING to show wear (probably mostly because of 80# dog toenails!). Here are some pics of the new cushions: http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaCabinFwd.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaCabinPort.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaCabinStbd.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaQBerth.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaQBerthStowage.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaOverhead.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaPanel.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaGalley.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaLaZboy.jpg The only downside is that BuscaBrisas and Seas The Day no longer have MATCHING cushions. Tod Mills M17 #408 BuscaBrisas
I decided to cut the Q'berth cushion short to 36" long, as I'd never sleep there anyway. That opens up a little more room for stowage boxes. The extra 3" at the foot makes a big difference because now combinations of box sizes can stack snugly in there where as before they were too tall. I'm finding that there are lots of possibilities. I did add a taper on the aft end of the cushion. That way the cushion covers the access lid in the berth while the taper allows for getting the boxes in and out without hooking on the corner of the cushion. I'm using those particular boxes because the lids have no openings for rainwater to drip down into the box like so many of them have, and that means I can set them in the cockpit if I have an extra full cabin. I still have to figure out the best combination of boxes and packing, though. Finally got a label made up for the panel. The trophy shop talked me into using a thin aluminum label, black with gold-ish underplating that forms the letters. I don't think the gold shows up as well as if I would have used a thicker plastic label, black with white plastic underlay. But, it's not too bad and it's not like I don't already have the switches memorized: running lights masthead light deck floodlight cockpit plug cabin plug cabin light I tried out the LaZboy type seat and, aaahhhhhhh, quite comfy. The three cushions that make it up are not attached to anything. The seat back and the seat are zippered together while the "block" is completely loose. The "block" does have a flap of material that slips under the q'berth cushion. They seem to stay in place pretty well even when slouching. Also, the seat is slightly higher than the original, so I'm a bit higher off the sole. The seat is slightly sloped (higher at the inboard edge) and the backrest helps get the back of my head away from the deck corner a bit. I think it will make a good spot to sit and read on a rainy evening. Tod
Great job on the cushions and the insightful LaZBoy! I still have the original cushions on my 77 and your pictures have inspired me to make recovering them a higher priority. Also, although I have not spent much time on this new boat, I can see that I would be in want of a comfortable place to sit and read. The LaZboy concept may be just the thing. Again, not having spent much time on the boat, I have not had a chance to think this through; but has anyone considered using one of the "Go Anywhere Chairs" (the folding cushions that form into a back rest-marketed by West Marine and others). I envisioned using it in the port settee against the vee berth "bulkhead" and facing aft with your legs stretched out (aft) under the cockpit seat. Not sure it is doable or practical; just wondered if anyone had tried it? Steve Shenkel M 17 Arizona -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+steve=appliedphotonics.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+steve=appliedphotonics.com@mailman.xmission .com] On Behalf Of htmills@bright.net Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 5:21 PM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: M_Boats: Busca's NEW Cushions I'm pretty pleased with how Busca's new cushions have turned out. The extra inch of thickness should make for some GOOD sleeping, as between that and the fact that the foam is 18 yrs newer I no longer bottom out. Jerry must've used the GOOD Quality foam for them to last that long. And the covers were just BEGINNING to show wear (probably mostly because of 80# dog toenails!). Here are some pics of the new cushions: http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaCabinFwd.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaCabinPort.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaCabinStbd.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaQBerth.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaQBerthStowage.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaOverhead.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaPanel.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaGalley.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaLaZboy.jpg The only downside is that BuscaBrisas and Seas The Day no longer have MATCHING cushions. Tod Mills M17 #408 BuscaBrisas _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Review of the cushions, plus Sport-a-Seat thoughts: ********* After using the La-Z-Boy cushions for two weeks on the Maine trip, I found them to be very comfy and also found a second use for them. Two of the cushions stack nicely to form an extension for the V-berth (for one half of it, anyway), adding an extra 9" or so. The cushion dimensions could stand to be tweaked ever so slightly to better serve that second purpose, but they were pretty darn close. The one drawback to them was the amount of interior cabin volume they consumed, making the cabin more cluttered, especially if stacked on the v-berth. That's no small problem. I really like the shortened q'berth cushion. It makes access to the locker in the q'berth easier and opens up the space for storage. Now I just have to optimize the tub sizes. There were too many small tubs on this trip to move around. Fewer larger tubs would've been nicer, I think. ********* I had bought a pair of Sport-A-Seats, those ratcheting seatbacked cushions a year ago and find that while they are nice to sit on in the cockpit, they just don't work in the cabin because of their size and proportions. On the q'berth, one needs a support for the part of the cushion near your knees because otherwise they tend to fall forward off the q'berth That would certainly be doable, using an existing tub (the toolbox galley?). They are too wide to fit up against the hull under the side-decks and so take up a huge amount of area on the v-berth. Not being waterproof, you don't really want to leave them out exposed to heavy dew or possible rain. They are just too big for the boat, IMHO. There are smaller, non-ratcheted seatbacked cushions; Rick and Bill R. have them I think. How do you guys like them? Tod Mills M17 #408 BuscaBrisas -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+htmills=bright.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+htmills=bright.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Steve Shenkel Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 9:45 AM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: RE: M_Boats: Busca's NEW Cushions Great job on the cushions and the insightful LaZBoy! I still have the original cushions on my 77 and your pictures have inspired me to make recovering them a higher priority. Also, although I have not spent much time on this new boat, I can see that I would be in want of a comfortable place to sit and read. The LaZboy concept may be just the thing. Again, not having spent much time on the boat, I have not had a chance to think this through; but has anyone considered using one of the "Go Anywhere Chairs" (the folding cushions that form into a back rest-marketed by West Marine and others). I envisioned using it in the port settee against the vee berth "bulkhead" and facing aft with your legs stretched out (aft) under the cockpit seat. Not sure it is doable or practical; just wondered if anyone had tried it? Steve Shenkel M 17 Arizona -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+steve=appliedphotonics.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+steve=appliedphotonics.com@mailman.xmission .com] On Behalf Of htmills@bright.net Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 5:21 PM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: M_Boats: Busca's NEW Cushions I'm pretty pleased with how Busca's new cushions have turned out. The extra inch of thickness should make for some GOOD sleeping, as between that and the fact that the foam is 18 yrs newer I no longer bottom out. Jerry must've used the GOOD Quality foam for them to last that long. And the covers were just BEGINNING to show wear (probably mostly because of 80# dog toenails!). Here are some pics of the new cushions: http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaCabinFwd.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaCabinPort.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaCabinStbd.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaQBerth.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaQBerthStowage.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaOverhead.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaPanel.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaGalley.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaLaZboy.jpg The only downside is that BuscaBrisas and Seas The Day no longer have MATCHING cushions. Tod Mills M17 #408 BuscaBrisas _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Hey Tod, thanks for the review of the La-Z-Boy cushions and Sport-a-Seat. Initially, I thought the Sport-a-Seat would be the way to go, but over time, it looked like it would be a poor fit at best and take up a lot of room. Having come from a larger boat, I have had to continually retrain myself to place more of a priority on space and weight considerations. For the time, I have chucked the quarter berth cushion in the attic and utilized the space for tub storage as you have. At present, the remaining (exposed) seating area is filled in with throw-able cockpit cushions; functional, but not ascetically pleasing. Hopefully, this exposed ugliness, will give rise to a near term solution (La-Z-Bouy?) and new upholstery. For what it's worth, my tub configuration is: (2) 28" long tubs stacked farthest back it (2) 15" long tubs stacked athwart ship next (1) 14" hand tote (sort of tub with a handle in the center) The tubs can certainly carry more stuff that one should probably have on an M17, but it has provided abundant storage. The long tubs in back are fairly easy to reach (not requiring a boat hook to pull out). The hand tote is used for current trip stuff (parts, tools, or cruise related things). All purchased from my marine chandlery-Target! I assume you used vinyl on the cushion bottoms. Of the remaining fabric for the cushions, how many yards of material were necessary for the cushions you did? Thanks, Steve Shenkel _/) <>< M17 #263 Arizona -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+steve=appliedphotonics.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+steve=appliedphotonics.com@mailman.xmission .com] On Behalf Of htmills@bright.net Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 8:50 PM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: RE: M_Boats: Busca's NEW Cushions Review of the cushions, plus Sport-a-Seat thoughts: ********* After using the La-Z-Boy cushions for two weeks on the Maine trip, I found them to be very comfy and also found a second use for them. Two of the cushions stack nicely to form an extension for the V-berth (for one half of it, anyway), adding an extra 9" or so. The cushion dimensions could stand to be tweaked ever so slightly to better serve that second purpose, but they were pretty darn close. The one drawback to them was the amount of interior cabin volume they consumed, making the cabin more cluttered, especially if stacked on the v-berth. That's no small problem. I really like the shortened q'berth cushion. It makes access to the locker in the q'berth easier and opens up the space for storage. Now I just have to optimize the tub sizes. There were too many small tubs on this trip to move around. Fewer larger tubs would've been nicer, I think. ********* I had bought a pair of Sport-A-Seats, those ratcheting seatbacked cushions a year ago and find that while they are nice to sit on in the cockpit, they just don't work in the cabin because of their size and proportions. On the q'berth, one needs a support for the part of the cushion near your knees because otherwise they tend to fall forward off the q'berth That would certainly be doable, using an existing tub (the toolbox galley?). They are too wide to fit up against the hull under the side-decks and so take up a huge amount of area on the v-berth. Not being waterproof, you don't really want to leave them out exposed to heavy dew or possible rain. They are just too big for the boat, IMHO. There are smaller, non-ratcheted seatbacked cushions; Rick and Bill R. have them I think. How do you guys like them? Tod Mills M17 #408 BuscaBrisas -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+htmills=bright.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+htmills=bright.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Steve Shenkel Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 9:45 AM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: RE: M_Boats: Busca's NEW Cushions Great job on the cushions and the insightful LaZBoy! I still have the original cushions on my 77 and your pictures have inspired me to make recovering them a higher priority. Also, although I have not spent much time on this new boat, I can see that I would be in want of a comfortable place to sit and read. The LaZboy concept may be just the thing. Again, not having spent much time on the boat, I have not had a chance to think this through; but has anyone considered using one of the "Go Anywhere Chairs" (the folding cushions that form into a back rest-marketed by West Marine and others). I envisioned using it in the port settee against the vee berth "bulkhead" and facing aft with your legs stretched out (aft) under the cockpit seat. Not sure it is doable or practical; just wondered if anyone had tried it? Steve Shenkel M 17 Arizona -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+steve=appliedphotonics.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+steve=appliedphotonics.com@mailman.xmission .com] On Behalf Of htmills@bright.net Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 5:21 PM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: M_Boats: Busca's NEW Cushions I'm pretty pleased with how Busca's new cushions have turned out. The extra inch of thickness should make for some GOOD sleeping, as between that and the fact that the foam is 18 yrs newer I no longer bottom out. Jerry must've used the GOOD Quality foam for them to last that long. And the covers were just BEGINNING to show wear (probably mostly because of 80# dog toenails!). Here are some pics of the new cushions: http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaCabinFwd.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaCabinPort.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaCabinStbd.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaQBerth.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaQBerthStowage.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaOverhead.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaPanel.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaGalley.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaLaZboy.jpg The only downside is that BuscaBrisas and Seas The Day no longer have MATCHING cushions. Tod Mills M17 #408 BuscaBrisas _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Tod, et. al., Mine is a Crazy Creek Camp Chair and I like it okay. It's thin and doesn't take up much space. The straps hold the back at an adjustable angle to the seat. The downside is that it's thin - not something to sit on all day over hard glass seats. Bill Riker M15 - #184 Storm Petrel -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+wriker=mindspring.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+wriker=mindspring.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of htmills@bright.net Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 11:50 PM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: RE: M_Boats: Busca's NEW Cushions Review of the cushions, plus Sport-a-Seat thoughts: ********* After using the La-Z-Boy cushions for two weeks on the Maine trip, I found them to be very comfy and also found a second use for them. Two of the cushions stack nicely to form an extension for the V-berth (for one half of it, anyway), adding an extra 9" or so. The cushion dimensions could stand to be tweaked ever so slightly to better serve that second purpose, but they were pretty darn close. The one drawback to them was the amount of interior cabin volume they consumed, making the cabin more cluttered, especially if stacked on the v-berth. That's no small problem. I really like the shortened q'berth cushion. It makes access to the locker in the q'berth easier and opens up the space for storage. Now I just have to optimize the tub sizes. There were too many small tubs on this trip to move around. Fewer larger tubs would've been nicer, I think. ********* I had bought a pair of Sport-A-Seats, those ratcheting seatbacked cushions a year ago and find that while they are nice to sit on in the cockpit, they just don't work in the cabin because of their size and proportions. On the q'berth, one needs a support for the part of the cushion near your knees because otherwise they tend to fall forward off the q'berth That would certainly be doable, using an existing tub (the toolbox galley?). They are too wide to fit up against the hull under the side-decks and so take up a huge amount of area on the v-berth. Not being waterproof, you don't really want to leave them out exposed to heavy dew or possible rain. They are just too big for the boat, IMHO. There are smaller, non-ratcheted seatbacked cushions; Rick and Bill R. have them I think. How do you guys like them? Tod Mills M17 #408 BuscaBrisas -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+htmills=bright.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+htmills=bright.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Steve Shenkel Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 9:45 AM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: RE: M_Boats: Busca's NEW Cushions Great job on the cushions and the insightful LaZBoy! I still have the original cushions on my 77 and your pictures have inspired me to make recovering them a higher priority. Also, although I have not spent much time on this new boat, I can see that I would be in want of a comfortable place to sit and read. The LaZboy concept may be just the thing. Again, not having spent much time on the boat, I have not had a chance to think this through; but has anyone considered using one of the "Go Anywhere Chairs" (the folding cushions that form into a back rest-marketed by West Marine and others). I envisioned using it in the port settee against the vee berth "bulkhead" and facing aft with your legs stretched out (aft) under the cockpit seat. Not sure it is doable or practical; just wondered if anyone had tried it? Steve Shenkel M 17 Arizona -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+steve=appliedphotonics.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+steve=appliedphotonics.com@mailman.xmission .com] On Behalf Of htmills@bright.net Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 5:21 PM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: M_Boats: Busca's NEW Cushions I'm pretty pleased with how Busca's new cushions have turned out. The extra inch of thickness should make for some GOOD sleeping, as between that and the fact that the foam is 18 yrs newer I no longer bottom out. Jerry must've used the GOOD Quality foam for them to last that long. And the covers were just BEGINNING to show wear (probably mostly because of 80# dog toenails!). Here are some pics of the new cushions: http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaCabinFwd.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaCabinPort.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaCabinStbd.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaQBerth.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaQBerthStowage.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaOverhead.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaPanel.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaGalley.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaLaZboy.jpg The only downside is that BuscaBrisas and Seas The Day no longer have MATCHING cushions. Tod Mills M17 #408 BuscaBrisas _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
What's the brand (Rubbermaid, Sterlite?) of your depicted storage bin, Tod? What are its dimensions? How many can you fit in the quarterberth? Outstanding cushions, great pics: Very inspirational. Thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: htmills@bright.net To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 8:21 PM Subject: M_Boats: Busca's NEW Cushions I'm pretty pleased with how Busca's new cushions have turned out. The extra inch of thickness should make for some GOOD sleeping, as between that and the fact that the foam is 18 yrs newer I no longer bottom out. Jerry must've used the GOOD Quality foam for them to last that long. And the covers were just BEGINNING to show wear (probably mostly because of 80# dog toenails!). Here are some pics of the new cushions: http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaCabinFwd.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaCabinPort.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaCabinStbd.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaQBerth.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaQBerthStowage.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaOverhead.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaPanel.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaGalley.jpg http://www.todspages.net/images/LF-BuscaLaZboy.jpg The only downside is that BuscaBrisas and Seas The Day no longer have MATCHING cushions. Tod Mills M17 #408 BuscaBrisas _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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