Hi Dan, Thanks for your support and interest, but now you have tweaked my interest in sailor's heaven. I have a daughter and her family living in Dallas, so I know everything in Texas is bigger and better........ But Texas as a sailor's heaven? Broad reach out all day and broad reach home again???? How can a New Englander become a Texan? Where do I apply for citizenship, or does having a daughter living there make me a quasi Texan?.............and I get the feeling from your description that you aren't suffering from hoards of PWCs, or Cigarettes disturbing your wildlife...... or the peace and quiet as your M17 gurgles along. You have just defined a new paradise! Thanks for the information; but you certain evoke a bad case of envy. Now where did you say the launching ramp was located? Connie