Hate to drag up this old tired dog but my recently purchased ('76 M17) has refused to lower her centerboard. Intrepid went on her maiden voyage, nothing went twang but centerboard was not forthcoming. Tried tapping on the case, still nothing. I was told it had been in storage for several years, (could be dirt dobbers or rust.) Still sailed pretty good without the c'board. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Wayne M17 #204 "Intrepid"
Wayne- where do you live? I know that boats stored in Minnesota and other places that freeze hard in the winter have more than their share of stuck boards- maybe because water that is in the keel swells when it freezes and gets worse as the winters go by. At any rate, I think that the problem starts when water gets in the keel and either rusts or freezes (or both). If you are lucky, it is just rust on the board. How about pulling the board and looking around? Maybe drill a few holes thru the keel into the ballast (you will obviously have to plug them later) and see if you can find any water. I have been working this spring for Nor'Sea,. tooling the new 23, but am finished there now and plan to start soon tooling a new board, thinner (probably 3/4"), which might help, but you will still have to get the water out of the keel (if that is the problem) or a thinner board will be only a temporary fix. Good luck. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: wayne yeargain To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 7:30 PM Subject: M_Boats: Stuck centerboard Hate to drag up this old tired dog but my recently purchased ('76 M17) has refused to lower her centerboard. Intrepid went on her maiden voyage, nothing went twang but centerboard was not forthcoming. Tried tapping on the case, still nothing. I was told it had been in storage for several years, (could be dirt dobbers or rust.) Still sailed pretty good without the c'board. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Wayne M17 #204 "Intrepid"
Hi Jerry I live in Texas near Houston, the boat has resided in Corpus Christie and Galveston with previous owners so freezing isn't the problem. I think it was sitting on the trailer for a long time (years) no telling what is in there, I'll keep working on it. Fortunately the boat sails well enough without it but of course I'd like to be able to use it. The new c'boards sound good keep me informed. Wayne ----- Original Message ----- From: Jerry Montgomery To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 9:45 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Stuck centerboard Wayne- where do you live? I know that boats stored in Minnesota and other places that freeze hard in the winter have more than their share of stuck boards- maybe because water that is in the keel swells when it freezes and gets worse as the winters go by. At any rate, I think that the problem starts when water gets in the keel and either rusts or freezes (or both). If you are lucky, it is just rust on the board. How about pulling the board and looking around? Maybe drill a few holes thru the keel into the ballast (you will obviously have to plug them later) and see if you can find any water. I have been working this spring for Nor'Sea,. tooling the new 23, but am finished there now and plan to start soon tooling a new board, thinner (probably 3/4"), which might help, but you will still have to get the water out of the keel (if that is the problem) or a thinner board will be only a temporary fix. Good luck. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: wayne yeargain To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 7:30 PM Subject: M_Boats: Stuck centerboard Hate to drag up this old tired dog but my recently purchased ('76 M17) has refused to lower her centerboard. Intrepid went on her maiden voyage, nothing went twang but centerboard was not forthcoming. Tried tapping on the case, still nothing. I was told it had been in storage for several years, (could be dirt dobbers or rust.) Still sailed pretty good without the c'board. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Wayne M17 #204 "Intrepid"
Ahoy Wayne! my 1974 M17 board was stuck also. it had been in the S.F. bay then stored for about 18 months. we used a piece of 5/8 inch X 2 ft steel rod to drive down on the top thru the pennant hole...hold the tip of the rod forward of where the pennant ties on...wackit pretty good. alternate doing that with working a hacksaw blade held with vicegrips up each side between the board and the trunk...do this from below,lots of junk will fall out. we had to sail and saw and bang for about 5 or 6 outings until it started to free-up. once it was down i dove under and scrubbed with a wire brush. it works fine now altho it's not very pretty. we lower it to the stop then crank back up about an inch. yer gonna love this boat! best of luck, ron and cathryn goodspeed M17 "hula pie" #025
Hi Ron & Kathy Thanks for the encouraging words, my boat also was in storage in Texas, probably dirt dobbers have built nests in there. I think the idea of pushing a steel rod down the top and banging on it sounds good, I'll try that and also a saw blade from the bottom. Wayne . ----- Original Message ----- From: "ron and cathryn goodspeed" <rcgoodspeed@mac.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 9:44 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Stuck centerboard
Ahoy Wayne! my 1974 M17 board was stuck also. it had been in the S.F. bay then stored for about 18 months. we used a piece of 5/8 inch X 2 ft steel rod to drive down on the top thru the pennant hole...hold the tip of the rod forward of where the pennant ties on...wackit pretty good. alternate doing that with working a hacksaw blade held with vicegrips up each side between the board and the trunk...do this from below,lots of junk will fall out. we had to sail and saw and bang for about 5 or 6 outings until it started to free-up. once it was down i dove under and scrubbed with a wire brush. it works fine now altho it's not very pretty. we lower it to the stop then crank back up about an inch. yer gonna love this boat!
best of luck,
ron and cathryn goodspeed M17 "hula pie" #025
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As mine was when I got it. Took her to a local sailboat guy. He put her in slings and lowered the board, how I don't know, ground it down and painted. It has worked perfect for 5 years. About 150 bucks. Good luck. Dave #49 ----- Original Message ----- From: wayne yeargain To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 9:30 PM Subject: M_Boats: Stuck centerboard Hate to drag up this old tired dog but my recently purchased ('76 M17) has refused to lower her centerboard. Intrepid went on her maiden voyage, nothing went twang but centerboard was not forthcoming. Tried tapping on the case, still nothing. I was told it had been in storage for several years, (could be dirt dobbers or rust.) Still sailed pretty good without the c'board. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Wayne M17 #204 "Intrepid"
Hi Dave & Nancy Glad to hear your problem was not recurring, thats encouraging. I think once the trash or whatever is in there is cleaned out mine too will work fine. I've seen from this web site a number of boats had this problem initially, but once cleared not a recurring problem. Wayne ----- Original Message ----- From: David and Nancy Phippeny To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 6:58 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Stuck centerboard As mine was when I got it. Took her to a local sailboat guy. He put her in slings and lowered the board, how I don't know, ground it down and painted. It has worked perfect for 5 years. About 150 bucks. Good luck. Dave #49 ----- Original Message ----- From: wayne yeargain To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 9:30 PM Subject: M_Boats: Stuck centerboard Hate to drag up this old tired dog but my recently purchased ('76 M17) has refused to lower her centerboard. Intrepid went on her maiden voyage, nothing went twang but centerboard was not forthcoming. Tried tapping on the case, still nothing. I was told it had been in storage for several years, (could be dirt dobbers or rust.) Still sailed pretty good without the c'board. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Wayne M17 #204 "Intrepid"
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