Wayne, With the older models like ours, you can suspend the boat by the toe rails if you use several attachment points. Either build a rack over the boat (which is what I did) or, if you have access to a shop with strong enough beams, hang it in there. Take all the excess weight out of the boat first (anchor, motor, etc.) and make sure you toe rails are tight and sound. One way of raising the boat off the trailer is to lower the jack as far as possible, which raises the rear several inches. Tie that up. Then raise the jack all the way and tie up the bow. Add some lines in the middle too for extra support. With any luck, when you lower the tongue, the boat will be off the trailer. You may have to let the air out of the tires to squeak it out of there. Add a couple extra ropes slung under the boat for safety that you can shift out of your way as you need and some sort of cross bracing a little below the boat to prevent it from dropping on you if something fails. Mines been hanging like that for 3 weeks now as I redo the hull. Good luck. Larry Yake M17, #200 Tullamore On Fri, 17 May 2002 21:56:20 -0500 "wayne yeargain" <wayne@ev1.net> writes:

Could you tell me the details of jacking the boat up and getting it off the trailer. I need to do the same with my M17, want to paint the boat, & do some repair on the trailer, & I. have been reluctant to start. What type jack did you use, where did you place it, & how did you block the boat up? How do you get the trailer out from under the boat with the jack in place? Appreciate your input.

Wayne M17 #204 ----- Original Message ----- From: <htmills@bright.net> To: ">Mboats<" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 4:24 PM Subject: M_Boats: trailer refurb and a question on winch location.

Well, wish me luck....Am in the process of a trailerectomy. Last time I jacked the boat up off the trailer; this time I'm jacking up the whole kit and caboodle, then blocking the boat and lowering the trailer. We'll see which is easier. 'Twould be nice to have slings and a hoist but alas I have none (next time around I hope to!).

Just picked up the sandblaster. Bought some steel from work to replace the tongue tube and add keel rollers (will have 4 instead of 1) and keel guides. Thanks everyone

for sending in their pictures of their guides (and Doug for adding them to the web page), it helped me see how I'd like to do them.

Hopefully by this time tomorrow the trailer will have that stuff and a coat of primer on it.

*******Question in this paragraph******Right now, there is a 2.5" x 2.5" square tube sticking up from the tongue tube. On top of that is a 3" or 4" (can't recall just what it is) channel with both legs facing down. The winch is mounted on top of that and there is a V-block at the aft end of the channel for the bow of the boat. The V-block contacts the bow a couple of inches below the bow eye. Does anyone ave a better arrangement?

Thanks much,

Tod

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