Hi All Many books cover supplies for canoe camping. Small sailboats are just canoes with extra space. Canoe camping permits more luxury than backpacking but rarely is ice carried and often regulation requires not using cans or bottles as parks and forests try to reduce the temptation to leave waste behind. Backpacking food could be used but it is very expensive for those of normal appetite, often salty, and to many is barely edible. A few possibles: Freeze dry canned beans. Low heat in the oven on a flat pan followed by drying in any household food dryer. WIth spices, dried or packaged tomato sauce and rice makes great chili. I add beans to many dishes from scrambled eggs, to pasta sauce, to oatmeal to pump up nutrition, healthy calories, and flavor. Instant rice, brown has more flavor and fiber. Supermarkets have many choices. Asian stores rarely do. Regular brown rice takes a long time to cook. Pizza sauce is available in packets rather than cans and works with any noodles. Garlic and onions keep well. Grate or whole romano or parmesan cheese keeps relatively well. Asian groceries for noodles, dried fish and shrimp products, mung beans for sprouting, and mushrooms. These products often need to ship from afar so are more often available dried than comparable domestic products. Prices are very reasonable unlike camper dried food. Try before the trip to learn best preparation methods and to find out which suit your taste. Asian spices often parallel western spices and are a fraction of the cost. Try the curry but avoid curry mixes that have a lot of salt. Asian noodles cook very quickly. Avoid the prepacked fried noodles which have a lot of fat and salt. Read the package! Sometimes high salt includes the flavoring packet which can be discarded. Noodles mixed while hot with grated Romano cheese, spices (go Italian or use with curry) and a bit of oil make an easy one pot dish - five minutes. http://chinesefood.about.com/library/blnoodlescook.htm Beans and alfalfa and wheat can be sprouted in a wet towel placed anywhere out of the sun. It could at the same time be wrapped around a drink to cool it. Nothing beats fresh sprouted mung beans stir fried with shrimp, onions, garlic, and peppers over rice. And for peanut butter and jelly, matzo or Nordic crispbreads have fiber, usually little salt and fat, and keep will if carefully plastic bagged. Try for whole grain. See you on the water, Cliff in PA Egret, a Dovekie 21, and considering a Montgomery 15 On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Howard Audsley <haudsley@tranquility.net>wrote:

Yup......I failed to mention those. There is tuna and a limited selection of other canned fish and other meats, such as vienna sausage, canned chicken, some beef. Freeze dried beef, jerky, etc. I carry a dry food tub on the boat, and I think it has a can of Hormel Chili in it right now. I've wondered about dragging along a chunk of country cured ham. Then there is the packaged mixes like the Lipton stuff. Red beans and rice, etc. One downside to a lot of those is dealing with the packaging. Do that often enough and you can start accumulating a good size pile of trash to drag around.

I was along on a scout trip to Philmont, so lived out of a backpack for 10 days, not to mention all the other backpacking we did before and after. They (Philmont) and we used a lot of freeze dried stuff (so you don't have to carry the weight of the water on your back). They worked, but you would tire of that pretty quick. Those pemican bars were filling to say the least, but also known to cause gastric distress in some.

When we weren't backpacking, the motto of the adults was to eat better on a campout than we did at home, or there wasn't much reason to go on a campout. So we would serve KC strips, baked potatoes, salads, cobblers, etc. I've tended to carry that philosophy over to boating (I don't have to carry it on my back), so I'm known to eat like that on the boat most of the time. But that means that cooler goes too.

Trying to find some middle ground here.

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Hi Howard,

For starters:

cans of tuna fish (or the new pouches which I think are even smaller in quantity than are the cans)

canned spaghetti / or similar product

try a camping out fitters such as EMI, or Cabela's and see what sort of provisions they have that don't require refrigeration. The hunters / fishermen / backpackers all have the same problems.

Connie

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