Hi all, I know that when you do a thing for a long time some things become second nature. I'm not there yet with the business of launching the boat off the trailer. Tell me, at what point you set the rudder up. I have so far opted not to place the rudder in place until the boat is off the trailer since there is so little distance from the bottom of the rudder to the road. But once the boat is off the trailer the need to get the engine started and move the boat out of the ramp area quickly, things get sort of hairy. Is it best to get the motor started and move the boat to the dock using only the motor to steer or is it better to drop the rudder in before starting the motor. Will she steer using only the motor? Any suggestions along these lines would be appreciated. ===== Time for a cool change! Sandra __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com
Hi, Sandra I guess you have a 17, right? I always mount the rudder and tiller before launching and have not had any problems yet with grounding out. I did it once in the water but found it to be a royal pain, especially getting the split ring in the little hole under the lowermost gudgeon. Yes, you can steer the boat using only the engine. In fact, that may make it simpler because then there is only the motor to turn. Tod
Tod, If the Sandra asking the question is the lady from Dalton, GA, I believe her boat is an M-15. If so, couldn't she install the rudder just before backing down the ramp, and if concerned about dragging , retract it? Assuming, of course, that ALL M-15's have kick-up rudders. I'm not that familar with the 15, but I've seen the kick-up rudder sticking straight out behind an M-15. Clarence ----- Original Message ----- From: <htmills@bright.net> To: <seawitchlj@yahoo.com>; <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 12:12 PM Subject: RE: M_Boats: Sequencing on launch
Hi, Sandra
I guess you have a 17, right? I always mount the rudder and tiller before launching and have not had any problems yet with grounding out. I did it once in the water but found it to be a royal pain, especially getting the split ring in the little hole under the lowermost gudgeon.
Yes, you can steer the boat using only the engine. In fact, that may make it simpler because then there is only the motor to turn.
Tod
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Hello Sandra, When launching we install the rubber/ tiller before launching. A small line is lead from a transom mounted eye through a faired hole in the rudder to a transom mounted cleat opposite. Tightening this line raises and turns the rudder for more clearance- I want to try using it while hove to, think it might work to hold the rudder over while shortening the main. We recently installed a Suzuki 6hp longshaft on the original transom cutout, still breaking the motor in, works well and the prop cannot hit the tiller; we do have to lift the tiller somewhat when coming about to port tack but not so high as to be a problem [this only happens when the motor is in the horizontal, full up position]. We typically use both tiller and motor near the docks and have motorsailed quite nicely with motor at a fast idle. Best Wishes, Ron and Cathryn Goodspeed 1974 M17 "hula pie" #025
Hi Sandra, With our M-15 we launch with the rudder attached in the kick-up position. I used to tie it in the up position just to be sure it would not inadvertently drop down while backing down the ramp (big bump maybe...) Recently we drilled a hole through the aluminum top of the rudder and use a fast pin to hold the rudder ether locked up or down. Once in the water we pull the fast pin, make a water-pump movement with the tiller, and the rudder will drop down and hold itself in the down position. Randy M-15 #407 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Seawitch" <seawitchlj@yahoo.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 8:45 AM Subject: M_Boats: Sequencing on launch
Hi all, I know that when you do a thing for a long time some things become second nature. I'm not there yet with the business of launching the boat off the trailer. Tell me, at what point you set the rudder up. I have so far opted not to place the rudder in place until the boat is off the trailer since there is so little distance from the bottom of the rudder to the road. But once the boat is off the trailer the need to get the engine started and move the boat out of the ramp area quickly, things get sort of hairy. Is it best to get the motor started and move the boat to the dock using only the motor to steer or is it better to drop the rudder in before starting the motor. Will she steer using only the motor? Any suggestions along these lines would be appreciated.
===== Time for a cool change! Sandra
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Randy, I like the idea of a "fast" pin in the rudder. I've been using a bungie cord to assure the rudder doesn't drop when backing down a ramp. That happened to me once and that was one time too many. Stan M-15, # 177, Carol II
Hello all. I had a bit of a wreck recently with an old sailing dingy that didn't hold up too well in a good blow (obviously not as well built as a Montgomery). I'm having trouble locating a sliding gooseneck that will attach to a wooden boom with a rectangular cross section. The boom is 1-5/8" wide X 1-7/8" tall. The old gooseneck was bronze and it would be nice to find another like it but I'm having trouble locating anything that would work. Any suggestions on where to look? Thanks Mark Dvorscak M17 #400 Grace And a 1960 vintage sailing dingy of unknown origin
You might try Bristol Bronze. They have a gooseneck for the Herreshoff 12 that might be close. They may also be able to make you a new gooseneck if necessary. Tom M17 Obsessus
Have you tried Bristol Bronze, www.bristolbronze.com , Mark? If Roger doesn't have it, he can make t. --Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roberta Dvorscak" <edarts93@earthlink.net> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 12:52 AM Subject: non Montgomery gooseneck search Hello all. I had a bit of a wreck recently with an old sailing dingy that didn't hold up too well in a good blow (obviously not as well built as a Montgomery). I'm having trouble locating a sliding gooseneck that will attach to a wooden boom with a rectangular cross section. The boom is 1-5/8" wide X 1-7/8" tall. The old gooseneck was bronze and it would be nice to find another like it but I'm having trouble locating anything that would work. Any suggestions on where to look? Thanks Mark Dvorscak M17 #400 Grace And a 1960 vintage sailing dingy of unknown origin
Mark- I have some of the old M-10 goosenecks left; they are stainless (made by Shaefer) and slide on a piece of 5/8 sailtrack, which I probably have also. These are made for a 1 1/2" round tube, but could work for about anything close. After tomorrow, I'll be out of communication for a few days. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roberta Dvorscak" <edarts93@earthlink.net> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 9:52 PM Subject: M_Boats: non Montgomery gooseneck search
Hello all. I had a bit of a wreck recently with an old sailing dingy that didn't hold up too well in a good blow (obviously not as well built as a Montgomery). I'm having trouble locating a sliding gooseneck that will attach to a wooden boom with a rectangular cross section. The boom is 1-5/8" wide X 1-7/8" tall. The old gooseneck was bronze and it would be nice to find another like it but I'm having trouble locating anything that would work. Any suggestions on where to look? Thanks Mark Dvorscak M17 #400 Grace And a 1960 vintage sailing dingy of unknown origin
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Thanks to all for the response to my query. I haven't found anything right yet. I may have to get it custom made (sounds expensive already)! There are so many helpful people on this list that it feels like family. Mark Dvorscak M17 #400 Grace
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Honshells -
htmills＠bright.net -
Jerry Montgomery -
n9ca -
Randy Graves -
Roberta Dvorscak -
ron and cathryn goodspeed -
Seawitch -
Stanley Winarski -
Thomas Wilkinson