Michael Ray Wisely has a fixed keel M17 and he keeps it at Richmond point if I am not mistaken.  Not sure if he is following this thread however.   Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5 -------- Original message -------- From: montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com Date: 07/23/2015 11:00 AM (GMT-08:00) To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 149, Issue 19 Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com You can reach the person managing the list at montgomery_boats-owner@mailman.xmission.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics:    1. M-17's in San Francisco Bay area? (John Schinnerer)    2. Re: M-17's in San Francisco Bay area? (Bill Wickett)    3. Re: M-17's in San Francisco Bay area? (Dave Scobie)    4. Re: M-17's in San Francisco Bay area? (John Schinnerer)    5. M15 portapotty (Paul McAleavy)    6. Re: M15 portapotty (Oscar Cordoba)    7. Re: M15 portapotty (Dave Scobie)    8. Re: M15 portapotty (wcampion@aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 15:40:36 -0700 From: John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: M-17's in San Francisco Bay area? Message-ID: <55B01BE4.20008@eco-living.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Hi all, I'll be in the SF Bay area end of this coming week (Fri-Sun). I'm wondering if there are any M-17's I could take a look at in person while I'm in the area (on the hard or in the water, either way helpful). Got a brief look at Keith's in Vancouver BC last January, want to check out the cabin/interior and cockpit space again. thanks, John S. -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 18:48:53 -0400 From: Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M-17's in San Francisco Bay area? Message-ID: <7E28B50D-BAEB-40D7-9CFD-6032413E0E96@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Not in that area John. Hopefully someone will be able to accommodate you so you can look over a boat again. Just wanted to mention that we feel the cockpit is one of the best out there, for days sailing, cruising, or ahem, napping. The seats allow me to stretch out fully, and I am 6'3". The seat back/coamings are very high and comfortable. Much better than many friends larger boats, from 20 to 40'. We are always glad to get back to Makin' Time after visiting on other boats. Good luck with your search. Bill Wickett

On Jul 22, 2015, at 6:40 PM, John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> wrote:

Hi all,

I'll be in the SF Bay area end of this coming week (Fri-Sun). I'm wondering if there are any M-17's I could take a look at in person while I'm in the area (on the hard or in the water, either way helpful).

Got a brief look at Keith's in Vancouver BC last January, want to check out the cabin/interior and cockpit space again.

thanks, John S.

-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 18:43:08 -0600 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M-17's in San Francisco Bay area? Message-ID: <CAGjBOA4GddYK1Mo=U-KhL1H4m5QK5DmPkKvqygyPKMZxTdc_OA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Looks like the Cruiser Challenge wwwsite hasn't been updated in a while. You may wish to contact Goose with the potter yachters to see if a M17 is registered but not on the wwwsite (two Sage 17s will be there). :: Dave Scobie On Jul 22, 2015 3:49 PM, "Bill Wickett" <billwick@gmail.com> wrote:

Not in that area John. Hopefully someone will be able to accommodate you so you can look over a boat again.

Just wanted to mention that we feel the cockpit is one of the best out there, for days sailing, cruising, or ahem, napping.

The seats allow me to stretch out fully, and I am 6'3".

The seat back/coamings are very high and comfortable. Much better than many friends larger boats, from 20 to 40'. We are always glad to get back to Makin' Time after visiting on other boats.

Good luck with your search.

Bill Wickett

...

On Jul 22, 2015, at 6:40 PM, John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> wrote:

Hi all,

I'll be in the SF Bay area end of this coming week (Fri-Sun). I'm wondering if there are any M-17's I could take a look at in person while I'm in the area (on the hard or in the water, either way helpful).

Got a brief look at Keith's in Vancouver BC last January, want to check out the cabin/interior and cockpit space again.

thanks, John S.

-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 18:09:56 -0700 From: John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M-17's in San Francisco Bay area? Message-ID: <55B03EE4.9030904@eco-living.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Ahh, thanks - a near miss. Monterey is out of range for this quick trip, another 1.5-2.5 hours south, I won't have time to get down there. Will have to watch for it ahead of time next year! cheers, John S. On 07/22/2015 05:43 PM, Dave Scobie wrote:

Looks like the Cruiser Challenge wwwsite hasn't been updated in a while. You may wish to contact Goose with the potter yachters to see if a M17 is registered but not on the wwwsite (two Sage 17s will be there).

:: Dave Scobie On Jul 22, 2015 3:49 PM, "Bill Wickett" <billwick@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Not in that area John. Hopefully someone will be able to accommodate you so you can look over a boat again.

Just wanted to mention that we feel the cockpit is one of the best out there, for days sailing, cruising, or ahem, napping.

The seats allow me to stretch out fully, and I am 6'3".

The seat back/coamings are very high and comfortable. Much better than many friends larger boats, from 20 to 40'. We are always glad to get back to Makin' Time after visiting on other boats.

Good luck with your search.

Bill Wickett

...

On Jul 22, 2015, at 6:40 PM, John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> wrote:

Hi all,

I'll be in the SF Bay area end of this coming week (Fri-Sun). I'm wondering if there are any M-17's I could take a look at in person while I'm in the area (on the hard or in the water, either way helpful).

Got a brief look at Keith's in Vancouver BC last January, want to check out the cabin/interior and cockpit space again.

thanks, John S.

-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 21:40:53 -0500 From: Paul McAleavy <rpmscreenprint@sbcglobal.net> To: "montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: M15 portapotty Message-ID: <CAKTgnd+AJOKSPYEpCtRknU-r8mb7AMqeLGD5eC7amOJwYpXO1w@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 My recently acquired M15 lacks a portable head. Can anyone provide the brand and model number of a unit that fits the space available? If there are several that will fit, do people have an opinion as to the best? I have zero experience with such, as going over the side is sufficient for me, but the Admiral demands seated comfort. I would guess simple is the best but any input would be appreciated. The Admiral has rejected my suggestion of the old cedar bucket. Thanks, Paul M15 #471 ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 21:51:03 -0500 From: Oscar Cordoba <o.cordoba2015@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 portapotty Message-ID: <CAGsY=PuQ3j92e9fnxPVCsCHoiJ=aAmsZpQHm0VYCMbm1Bbw_zw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hello Paul, I am a new owner myself and had the same question. I emailed Bob Eeg and he said the brand/model that works is the Thetford 135. They are a discontinued model but you can find them if you search for them, I  found a new old stock one on ebay. It fits the M15 space perfectly, my boat is 2011 year. Good luck. Oscar On Jul 22, 2015 9:41 PM, "Paul McAleavy" <rpmscreenprint@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

My recently acquired M15 lacks a portable head. Can anyone provide the brand and model number of a unit that fits the space available? If there are several that will fit, do people have an opinion as to the best? I have zero experience with such, as going over the side is sufficient for me, but the Admiral demands seated comfort. I would guess simple is the best but any input would be appreciated. The Admiral has rejected my suggestion of the old cedar bucket.

Thanks, Paul M15 #471

------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 21:00:45 -0600 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 portapotty Message-ID: <CAGjBOA6DuYeZxgYh2k+kp8ZAhZnOX-PinKnTxtZA0ZcRi1Kx+Q@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Note: the Thetford 260 will not fit (even though Thetford sells the 260 as being the same siza and and a 'drop in replacement'). :: Dave Scobie On Jul 22, 2015 7:52 PM, "Oscar Cordoba" <o.cordoba2015@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Paul, I am a new owner myself and had the same question. I emailed Bob Eeg and he said the brand/model that works is the Thetford 135. They are a discontinued model but you can find them if you search for them, I  found a new old stock one on ebay. It fits the M15 space perfectly, my boat is 2011 year. Good luck.

Oscar On Jul 22, 2015 9:41 PM, "Paul McAleavy" <rpmscreenprint@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

...

My recently acquired M15 lacks a portable head. Can anyone provide the brand and model number of a unit that fits the space available? If there are several that will fit, do people have an opinion as to the best? I have zero experience with such, as going over the side is sufficient for me, but the Admiral demands seated comfort. I would guess simple is the best but any input would be appreciated. The Admiral has rejected my suggestion of the old cedar bucket.

Thanks, Paul M15 #471

------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 06:37:50 -0400 From: wcampion@aol.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 portapotty Message-ID: <14eba7d9abd-6de-8ba5@webprd-m104.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Paul & Oscar, I have an older M-15 (1982) and you are correct the Thetford 135 is the model that was when Jerry built the boats.  However, as you mentioned the Thetford 135 is no longer being manufactured.  But, not to worry, If you buy the replacement model, which is slightly larger, you can remold the base to fit.  All you need to do is fill the waste tank (base) with some boiling water.  Apply downward pressure (sit on it) with the unit in place.  Drink two beers (your choice) while the water cools.  Empty the waste tank and you're all set.  This is the process I used and it works beautifully.   Skip M-15 1982 #201 -----Original Message----- From: Oscar Cordoba <o.cordoba2015@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wed, Jul 22, 2015 10:52 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 portapotty Hello Paul, I am a new owner myself and had the same question. I emailed Bob Eeg and he said the brand/model that works is the Thetford 135. They are a discontinued model but you can find them if you search for them, I  found a new old stock one on ebay. It fits the M15 space perfectly, my boat is 2011 year. Good luck. Oscar On Jul 22, 2015 9:41 PM, "Paul McAleavy" <rpmscreenprint@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

My recently acquired M15 lacks a portable head. Can anyone provide the brand and model number of a unit that fits the space available? If there are several that will fit, do people have an opinion as to the best? I have zero experience with such, as going over the side is sufficient for me, but the Admiral demands seated comfort. I would guess simple is the best but any input would be appreciated. The Admiral has rejected my suggestion of the old cedar bucket.

Thanks,

Paul

M15 #471

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