Hello out there, I could use some advice on sails. An interesting jib came with my 2004 M17; it measures some 60 square feet with a very high clew and a set of reef points that knock off another 5 square feet. Elliott/Pattison (that made the sail) apparently considers this its utility heavy weather sail, but I have found a real storm jib quite useful on other boats, and I am considering their 23 square foot "model". Have any of you needed such a small jib for snarling lake winds, perhaps in conjunction with a double-reefed main? (Speaking of mains, I have only one reef point; should I consider a second or even a third?) Any comments (besides "what an idiot") will be greatly appreciated. Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla
Tom, Griselda has 4 jibs ranging from a 76 Sq foot 150 Genoa to a 25 sq foot #3 storm jib. She also has a full batten main with two 3 foot deep reef points. I have sailed on her when the double reefed main and the #3 storm jib was all she would carry. As with most masthead rigs, sailing without a jib gives very little drive to winward. I was very glad to have that "tiny little rag" up there since we had a long beat back to her mooring. Texas lakes definately have "snarling winds" so I am glad to have the variety of sails. Ron M17 #14, Griselda Lake Livingston, Texas
From: tjenk@gte.net To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:20:11 -0800 Subject: M_Boats: sails
Hello out there, I could use some advice on sails. An interesting jib came with my 2004 M17; it measures some 60 square feet with a very high clew and a set of reef points that knock off another 5 square feet. Elliott/Pattison (that made the sail) apparently considers this its utility heavy weather sail, but I have found a real storm jib quite useful on other boats, and I am considering their 23 square foot "model". Have any of you needed such a small jib for snarling lake winds, perhaps in conjunction with a double-reefed main? (Speaking of mains, I have only one reef point; should I consider a second or even a third?) Any comments (besides "what an idiot") will be greatly appreciated.
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Tom Sagitta, has a CDI roller furler and a 135 jib that I will roll with the wind changes, it's a 6oz Dacron that I had made along with my main which has 2 reef points. I sail in Corpus Christi Bay in Texas, and it gets really windy fast. I love my roller furler,even thu the sail shape is better on a regular sail, I would not give up my furling jib. Gilbert 1974 M-17 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Ronnie Keeler Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 8:38 PM To: Montgomery boats mailing list Subject: Re: M_Boats: sails Tom, Griselda has 4 jibs ranging from a 76 Sq foot 150 Genoa to a 25 sq foot #3 storm jib. She also has a full batten main with two 3 foot deep reef points. I have sailed on her when the double reefed main and the #3 storm jib was all she would carry. As with most masthead rigs, sailing without a jib gives very little drive to winward. I was very glad to have that "tiny little rag" up there since we had a long beat back to her mooring. Texas lakes definately have "snarling winds" so I am glad to have the variety of sails. Ron M17 #14, Griselda Lake Livingston, Texas
From: tjenk@gte.net To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:20:11 -0800 Subject: M_Boats: sails
Hello out there, I could use some advice on sails. An interesting jib came with my 2004 M17; it measures some 60 square feet with a very high clew and a set of reef points that knock off another 5 square feet. Elliott/Pattison (that made the sail) apparently considers this its utility heavy weather sail, but I have found a real storm jib quite useful on other boats, and I am considering their 23 square foot "model". Have any of you needed such a small jib for snarling lake winds, perhaps in conjunction with a double-reefed main? (Speaking of mains, I have only one reef point; should I consider a second or even a third?) Any comments (besides "what an idiot") will be greatly appreciated.
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Thanks Gilbert and Ronnie. Your advice is appreciated. I too have a CDI furler, but I have no immediate plans to store my boat with the mast up (in a slip or on a trailer) and I think a conventional rig will be easier and faster for me to rig by myself. Besides, being immersed in cold water while changing sails is character-building, don't you think? :) Tom Jenkins 2004 M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: "gilbert.landin" <gilbert.landin@gmail.com> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 7:38 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: sails
Tom Sagitta, has a CDI roller furler and a 135 jib that I will roll with the wind changes, it's a 6oz Dacron that I had made along with my main which has 2 reef points. I sail in Corpus Christi Bay in Texas, and it gets really windy fast. I love my roller furler,even thu the sail shape is better on a regular sail, I would not give up my furling jib.
Gilbert 1974 M-17
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Ronnie Keeler Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 8:38 PM To: Montgomery boats mailing list Subject: Re: M_Boats: sails
Tom,
Griselda has 4 jibs ranging from a 76 Sq foot 150 Genoa to a 25 sq foot #3 storm jib. She also has a full batten main with two 3 foot deep reef points. I have sailed on her when the double reefed main and the #3 storm jib was all she would carry. As with most masthead rigs, sailing without a jib gives very little drive to winward. I was very glad to have that "tiny little rag" up there since we had a long beat back to her mooring. Texas lakes definately have "snarling winds" so I am glad to have the variety of sails.
Ron
M17 #14, Griselda
Lake Livingston, Texas
From: tjenk@gte.net To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:20:11 -0800 Subject: M_Boats: sails
Hello out there, I could use some advice on sails. An interesting jib came with my 2004 M17; it measures some 60 square feet with a very high clew and a set of reef points that knock off another 5 square feet. Elliott/Pattison (that made the sail) apparently considers this its utility heavy weather sail, but I have found a real storm jib quite useful on other boats, and I am considering their 23 square foot "model". Have any of you needed such a small jib for snarling lake winds, perhaps in conjunction with a double-reefed main? (Speaking of mains, I have only one reef point; should I consider a second or even a third?) Any comments (besides "what an idiot") will be greatly appreciated.
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