My M17 is #38, 1974. Has the small starboard locker/seat, and the longer port one. I am wondering if anyone can tell me what is on the underside of their port locker lid/seat, for a similar vintage boat, to brace/support the seat function of the lid. The small starboard lid/seat has a nice factory foam core with glass over it to stiffen it up. The port one, on mine, has an obviously DIY very badly done raised foam core and fiberglass attempt to stiffen it up. But it doesn't look like it replaced a failed OEM one, or that an OEM one was cut away (WTF would do that?)...? What (if anything) was used to support/stiffen the underside of the port seat/lid on early M17's? The hack job stiffener is coming loose along the edges (resin/glass wasn't bonded well to underside of seat) so I need to remove it and do something else to stiffen up that seat. I am thinking to just put a couple layers of 6 oz cloth and epoxy (or maybe just one will be enough). Way easier than trying to do a foam core stiffener. Any reason I should try and do something fancier? thanks, John S. -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com