VC17 and VC Performance Epoxy are different products. VC17 is an paint for low fouling waters and you mix in copper just before application. Interesting stuff to apply that you need to be careful around when cleaning the boat as any chemical thinner will remove much of the paint. As Mark wrote it is really hard to ever get anything else to stick to the hull (except marine growth in moderate to high fouling waters). VC Performance Epoxy reads like a below waterline catalyzed paint with no antifouling properties. Stan knows Interlux products (he was a rep) and Larry had used it on his boat (I've not used the product but have used VC17). Details - (opens a PDF download data sheet on Performance Epoxy) http://www.yachtpaint.com/LiteratureCentre/vc-performance-epoxy-brochure.pdf :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/ On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, 8:13 PM Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Would love to be out in my boat right now with the wind howling. Thanks for the 2c worth. Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky)
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On Jul 24, 2020, at 8:22 PM, Mark Dvorscak <mdvorscak56@gmail.com> wrote:
Our M23 came with VC 17 bottom paint. It was worthless for a boat left in salt water for months on end. It had to be completely removed before applying other bottom paint because nothing will stick to it. Stripping the bottom of an M23 is not a small job! Think carefully about how to will use your boat before applying it. It'll be fine for a trailered boat that doesn't spend more than a few weeks in salt water. Also fine in fresh water where barnacles aren't a problem. My 2¢ from my own experience. Mark Dvorscak M23 Faith (actually sending this from the cabin of Faith as the wind howls outside)
On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, 17:55 Larry Yake <larryyake@gmail.com> wrote:
One other choice for bottom paint is the non-antifoul paint VC Performace Epoxy. Very tough and durable, great for trailering, is scrubbable, and with a teflon component, seems to be very fast. I've used it on CornDog for years and can recommend it.
On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 5:00 PM Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Pete:
The only things that will work below the waterline is gel coat or choosing to apply antifouling bottom paint. Topsides paint, like Brightside cannot sent much time under water.
With antifoul comes decision of barrier coat or no barrier coat before antifoul, shooting the waterline + 2", lifting the boat dropping the centerboard, sanding, more sanding etc.
IMO paint on a couple of coats of some good gel coat (assuming you have access to a source, know about adding wax so the gel coat for the last coat so it will cure) with a brush to protect the resin and fiberglass (neither of these being able to withstand UV) and call it good when standing 20' away. (If you want nice smooth and shiny you will need to do a LOT of sanding after applying three coats of gel coat going from 400g up to 1500+ grit - and if you sand thru the gel coat starting over after rough sanding the area again with 120-150g and again applying more coats of gel coat.)
:: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/
On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, 4:30 PM Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Hi: The bottom of my M15 is in great shape except where the previous owner scraped a small portion of the keel; I guess from beaching the boat. What type of paint can I use on the fiberglass to touch it up and protect it. I’ve been using a white gel coat to touch up scratches pete
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