What about a stayed junk rig? Tom Colvin junks use a stayed mast, but also fly a jib on a bowsprit. Some photos of Tom Colvin stayed junks: http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1986/Tom-Colvin-Pipestrelle-Steel-Schooner-2... http://www.usvi-info.com/kalad/ http://www.thomasecolvin.com/designs.htm Tyler ----- Original Message ----- From: "jerry montgomery" <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 6:20:49 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: junk rig on an M15 Only problem I can think of is that you would need to make/buy a wood mast and step it on the keel to get rid of the shrouds (I think). The mast would need to go thru the foredeck, probably right in front of the house. If you'll send me 10. I'll send you a sailplan, or you can do it the hard way and just measure things out carefully. It wouldn't be a trick to keep the CE in the same place. Obviously for SF you'd want to keep the rig pretty small, but junk rigs are apparently so easy to reef you might be able to have both worlds. I really don't claim to know what I'm talking about with junk rigs, but I know the theory. have fun! jerry