Connie as usual that was a very informative and excellent post. I have owned two sailboats and two kayaks. While I have done a lot of scrapping, sanding, cleaning, painting, oiling and waxing I have never built a boat. Tick tick tick. If I ever expect to build one I need to start soon. I know I can not top Bob and Jerry and I expect that I can not come close to Howard. Actually I was attempting to have a bit of humor at my wife's expense, as she is the one who asked the question regarding buy vs. build. She has met Howard and a few members of the Havasu local. I have dragged her onto boats from one coast to the other. She always marvels at how nice sailboat people are in general and Montgomery people in particular. I wish she could meet you because I am sure you would bowl her over. steve Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY