Bill-I tow with a Chevy 1500 (V8) factory towing package, trans, cooler, etcdoes the job very well. I gone across country and no problems. If you own the tow vehicle already (Ranger) it would probably work, o.k. Outboard on the bracket- wouldn't do it... I put a outboard bracket on the front of the trailer (purchased from International Marine) and it works great. The motor stays upright, you can gas it up before launching, eqsy to handle, and it be locked on the trailer. Regards, Randy W. M15 "Becca Anne" Texas
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Message: 1 Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:34:55 -0400 From: Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Tow vehicles for M17 Message-ID: <27f5c7f20907251734w618c5c4kfa5ff9ec7e763e5a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
We are looking at an M17 and thinking about tow vehicles.
Any M-boat owners tow an M17 with a Ford Ranger or Dodge Dakota?
Ranger with a 4 liter engine is rated at 4000 lbs tow capacity. Dakota is not as clearly defined in the manuals, but says it is up to 7,000 with correct equipment. I think that would be the 4.7L V-8 and tow package. I see that the Dakota has an overdrive override for towing hauling.
I think the Ranger might be a bit narrow, but have not compared the width of the 2 vehicles. Need to do a bit of on-line research. I think the M17 on the Pacific trailer is probably 7' 6".
The mission would be for towing 1 hour from home to launch and return, with two to four longer trips each summer of 3-6 hours distance. 6 hours would get us to the North Channel of Lake Huron.
Any experiences you have to share would be appreciated.
One last question, does anyone trailer with the O/B mounted on the boat (adjustable bracket) or do you stow the motor in your vehicle? Stowing in the rear of an SUV does not seem all that safe to me, unless it is strapped down. That is why we are looking at the pickup option.
Thanks much to all.
Bill Wickett, Ontario
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Message: 2 Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:44:20 -0400 From: <htmills@zoominternet.net> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Tow vehicles for M17 Message-ID: <002101ca0d8a$36cf3e80$a46dbb80$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
I drive a GMC Sierra 1500 p/u and always tow with the outboard in the bed of the p/u...
Tod Mills M17 #408, 1987 galley model BuscaBrisas
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Bill Wickett Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:35 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: Tow vehicles for M17
We are looking at an M17 and thinking about tow vehicles.
Any M-boat owners tow an M17 with a Ford Ranger or Dodge Dakota?
Ranger with a 4 liter engine is rated at 4000 lbs tow capacity. Dakota is not as clearly defined in the manuals, but says it is up to 7,000 with correct equipment. I think that would be the 4.7L V-8 and tow package. I see that the Dakota has an overdrive override for towing hauling.
I think the Ranger might be a bit narrow, but have not compared the width of the 2 vehicles. Need to do a bit of on-line research. I think the M17 on the Pacific trailer is probably 7' 6".
The mission would be for towing 1 hour from home to launch and return, with two to four longer trips each summer of 3-6 hours distance. 6 hours would get us to the North Channel of Lake Huron.
Any experiences you have to share would be appreciated.
One last question, does anyone trailer with the O/B mounted on the boat (adjustable bracket) or do you stow the motor in your vehicle? Stowing in the rear of an SUV does not seem all that safe to me, unless it is strapped down. That is why we are looking at the pickup option.
Thanks much to all.
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Message: 3 Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:02:52 -0700 From: Tom Smith <openboatt@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Tow vehicles for M17 Message-ID: <4e8a689b0907251902jf69e855g53439f90ea882c70@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Oh no....
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 5:44 PM, <htmills@zoominternet.net> wrote:
I drive a GMC Sierra 1500 p/u and always tow with the outboard in the bed of the p/u...
Tod Mills M17 #408, 1987 galley model BuscaBrisas
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Bill Wickett Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:35 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: Tow vehicles for M17
We are looking at an M17 and thinking about tow vehicles.
Any M-boat owners tow an M17 with a Ford Ranger or Dodge Dakota?
Ranger with a 4 liter engine is rated at 4000 lbs tow capacity. Dakota is not as clearly defined in the manuals, but says it is up to 7,000 with correct equipment. I think that would be the 4.7L V-8 and tow package. I see that the Dakota has an overdrive override for towing hauling.
I think the Ranger might be a bit narrow, but have not compared the width of the 2 vehicles. Need to do a bit of on-line research. I think the M17 on the Pacific trailer is probably 7' 6".
The mission would be for towing 1 hour from home to launch and return, with two to four longer trips each summer of 3-6 hours distance. 6 hours would get us to the North Channel of Lake Huron.
Any experiences you have to share would be appreciated.
One last question, does anyone trailer with the O/B mounted on the boat (adjustable bracket) or do you stow the motor in your vehicle? Stowing in the rear of an SUV does not seem all that safe to me, unless it is strapped down. That is why we are looking at the pickup option.
Thanks much to all.
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Message: 4 Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:04:42 -0700 From: "Jim Ellsworth" <j_ellsworth@earthlink.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Tow vehicles for M17 Message-ID: <025e01ca0d95$70efc390$6402a8c0@HOMEPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original
I tow with a 1989 Ford F250 with a 460 motor. Way overkill, I could tow a Nor Sea 27 with this set up.But that's what I have, my Acura TL won't tow anything.
I have seen M-17's towed with lots of different cars including a Subaru, a Honda Pilot and lots of others. I think the boat and all your stuff will weigh around 2500 lbs but the main issue seems to be the tongue weight. I think mine is around 300 lbs and when I tow with my camper on (with a hitch extension) I worry about that. Some people have talked about moving the trailer wheels forward on the frame to lessen the weight at the hitch. I may look into doing that at some point although when I tow without the camper the boat and trailer feel pretty good as is.
I tow with my outboard on the bracket. My Potter 19 trailer had a bracket on the front of the trailer but that required me to move the motor each time I went out. A 5hp motor is not that heavy but I just don't want to mess with moving it. I do tie a line around the motor to help take the strain going over bumps and potholes and so far it works just fine, and keeps some weight off the tongue
Jim Ellsworth M-17 #603 Grace ----- Original Message ----- From: <htmills@zoominternet.net> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 5:44 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Tow vehicles for M17
I drive a GMC Sierra 1500 p/u and always tow with the outboard in the bed of the p/u...
Tod Mills M17 #408, 1987 galley model BuscaBrisas
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Bill Wickett Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:35 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: Tow vehicles for M17
We are looking at an M17 and thinking about tow vehicles.
Any M-boat owners tow an M17 with a Ford Ranger or Dodge Dakota?
Ranger with a 4 liter engine is rated at 4000 lbs tow capacity. Dakota is not as clearly defined in the manuals, but says it is up to 7,000 with correct equipment. I think that would be the 4.7L V-8 and tow package. I see that the Dakota has an overdrive override for towing hauling.
I think the Ranger might be a bit narrow, but have not compared the width of the 2 vehicles. Need to do a bit of on-line research. I think the M17 on the Pacific trailer is probably 7' 6".
The mission would be for towing 1 hour from home to launch and return, with two to four longer trips each summer of 3-6 hours distance. 6 hours would get us to the North Channel of Lake Huron.
Any experiences you have to share would be appreciated.
One last question, does anyone trailer with the O/B mounted on the boat (adjustable bracket) or do you stow the motor in your vehicle? Stowing in the rear of an SUV does not seem all that safe to me, unless it is strapped down. That is why we are looking at the pickup option.
Thanks much to all.
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Message: 5 Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:50:47 -0700 (PDT) From: sarah steffensen <ssgorchels@yahoo.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: towing vehicles Message-ID: <48566.38035.qm@web43141.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
greetings, i have what i think is the ultimate tow vehicle. ?it has a 3500lb tow weight and i have used it to tow my m17 to oregon from california across mountain passes with no problems. ?it is a saab 9-3, vintage 99-2002. consider that the rest of the time you will get 25-30 mpg depending on your driving and that the 200hp turbo is a joy to drive the rest of the time. ?they will also haul a lot in their hatch. ?they also have a lot of safety features. ?trucks are a real chore to drive. ?one caveat, some of the engines in this group have a tendency to sludge so have a mechanic look at it before you buy one. ?in oregon, we have a mechanic that also runs a saab only junk yard which makes any problems that come up cheap to fix. i bought the m17 sea weet pea that is still listed in the for sale section of the owners group and have since fixed it up. ?i am really impressed with how well these boats sail. sincerely, greg
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