Re shroud tension, and boats without backstays, and forestay tension...below I'm pasting in some info I got from John C. Harris, designer at Chesapeake Light Craft, sailor and racer since youth. He owned an M-15 for some years and regards the boat highly. I was asking comparison questions on his CLC "Pocketship" design vs. the M-15. The reference to side shrouds possibly not being tight was in response to me describing the experience I had with Daniel Rich on his M-15 in high & gusting winds, when we couldn't make headway to windward partly because the forestay would soften too much when we had to briefly round up in a gust. He wrote, in part: "...Racing dinghies, in particular, all get by with just side shrouds and no backstay. Sounds to me like your side shrouds weren't set up very tight. If your leeward shroud was always slack, the mainsheet probably wasn't enough to keep the forestay tight. In boats this size with deck-stepped masts, you want all three shrouds taut as banjo strings. ...I go to a lot of trouble reminding PocketShip builders to set up the side shrouds really tight, both to protect the tabernacle and to provide luff tension for the jib." He also said he's very particular and fussy about rigging (from his racing days) and for his own M-15 he built a custom rig to suit his particulars. He didn't say specifically but I'm guessing the shrouds were adjustable. cheers, John S. On 06/27/2015 06:12 AM, Dave Scobie wrote:
Robert.
Reads like your shrouds are all to long. The M15 doesn't need turnbuckles, unless you have a furler, and then need on on the forestay.
Details on the standing rigging -
http://www.msogphotosite.com/MSOG/b15measure/b15measure1.gif
Measure your 15s rig and share how she compares to the specs listed in the above linked document.
:: Dave Scobie On Jun 26, 2015 9:23 PM, "Robert Hall" <bert.hall@bell.net> wrote:
Hi David , Yes to question one. In fact turnbuckles on all three stays. Cheers. RTH.
-----Original Message----- From: Dave Scobie Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 2:42 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Furler
Robert:
was the forestay converted to using a turnbuckle in place of the shroud tensioner?
do the side-shrouds have shroud tensioners?
link to a picture -
https://garhauermarine.com/ProductSpecs.cfm?pid=490
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Hall" <bert.hall@bell.net>
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 8:57:45 AM
Hello All, I have a CDI furler on my M-15 and even though my shrouds are attached at the after chain plate holes I can’t seem to get the furler taut.In fact there is a little forward rake in the mast at the present setting. Of course our 15’s have no back stays which would probably solve the slackness problem.Any helpful advice? RTH.
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