I have a fixed extension but sure can see where a telescoping one would be better. You want a long extension when singlehanding so you can sit pretty far forward. With an additional person or two on the boat, however, a long extension gets in the way. By the way John, I also have an El Toro and have learned a lot from your posts on the El Toro forum. Right now my bullship is used primarily as a rowing dinghy to get out to my M17 mooring. I hope to get a chance to sail it a bit this summer. I had a tanbark sail made for it to match my other boats. Not much likelihood of racing as I don't know of any other El Toros here in the Minneapolis area. Henry Monita. M17 Poquita. El Toro Chiquita Venture Newport 23 Limonita Force 5 Unnamed. Mirror Dinghy Sent from my Windows 10 phone From: John Schinnerer Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 5:44 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: M17 tiller extension questions Hi all, Contemplating getting a tiller extension for my M17. If you have one, what length works good for you? I'm thinking a fixed length one, but would be open to reasons why a telescoping one is worth the extra $$. Also any experience with good or bad makes/models, whatever the size. thanks, John S. -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com