On 9/22/2015 2:15 PM, casioqv@usermail.com wrote: Tyler, The containers I used were empty 1 quart (1 liter) regular engine oil containers. They had a good screw cap, and I never had any leakage problem . Of course, they were stowed in the bottom of the sail locker, so that they stayed relatively cool, and they were not subject to hot sunshine that might boil the contents. If you wanted to store your reserve gasoline on deck, that would certainly give you vapor pressure problems; sealed container; no safety valve to relieve pressure.... Ouch! My larger fuel container was a one gallon container, with the outboard fuel line with the bulb pump that also resided in the sail locker. As long as you don't put the fuel containers out in the sun where pressure can build up in the container, I think that approach is workable. It is learning to live with the devil you have and be safe about it. In Europe everyone with a boat had a diesel engine, and many used propane for stove fuel. When they heard that we had a gasoline engine on board, they were horrified; gasoline, how dangerous .... When I asked but what about your propane stove and the dangers of leaking propane waiting for a spark to go BOOM....? they just shrugged their shoulders. So, they live with their devil - propane; and we lived with our gasoline engine and fuel and cooked with alcohol; our devil. Ciao, Connie
Connie,
Did you ever have leaking issues with the 1 quart oil containers? I would be concerned that they aren't designed to hold high pressure, and if the bottle gets hot in the sun the vapor pressure would burst them, or push the cap off.
I have been looking at using MSR 30 oz backpacking fuel bottles, which are designed to be high-pressure leakproof fuel containers- but they are quite expensive. I currently own one, but would like 4 or more for a long cruise.
I do like the idea of small fuel containers that can fit in an M15 cockpit locker, so that they don't have any risk of leaking into the cabin.
MSR fuel bottle link: http://www.cascadedesigns.com/msr/stoves/stove-accessories/msr-fuel-bottles/...
Tyler
----- Original Message ----- From: "Conbert Benneck" <chbenneck@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 12:07:05 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 motor requirements
On 9/22/2015 12:38 PM, James Poulakis wrote:
Jim,
I had two solutions to refueling my 2 HP HONDA.
-1 I used 1 quart oil containers. They are small; store easily; are easy to pour; and you have no spills when you are refilling the tank in fairly smooth water.
-2 I had a spare remote fuel container. Use an outboard tank hose with a bulb pump in the middle. One end of the hose is in the fuel container; the other in the HONDA fuel tank. You squeeze the bulb, and can very nicely control fuel flow and fuel amount in the tank - i.e., no spillage.
Connie