Experimenting with the boom vang on one of the last days of the season. Trying it John's way. Liking it so far. Henry Monita On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 12:20 AM John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
No problem with the vang block hitting the hatch. It's never even close, so far anyhow..
If your strap was considerably shorter though, it could be a problem.
It's easy to experiment with strap length so you can see what will work for you...
cheers, John
On 10/11/19 9:42 AM, Henry Rodriguez wrote:
Thanks Dave, Yeah, it makes more sense to me to have the cleat at the bottom end. I was just wondering if I was missing something when I see boats with the cleat at the top.
Great picture, John I was planning on using a short strop like yours to reduce the amount of line in the tackle. I was thinking of putting the strop at the top but I can see where the cleat will be easier to access if it is a little bit above the deck. Do you find that it bangs on the cabin top when the vang is slack?
Henry
On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 10:03 PM John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
OK, I do have a picture, found a shot from Waldo Lake earlier this summer and cropped to the relevant part. Not super close up to see all details, but you get the idea, red webbing loop with snap shackle to bail on mast baseplate partly visible at lower end, and block about 1/3 the way to boom. Worth 1000+ words hopefully :-)
cheers, John
On 10/9/19 7:53 PM, John Schinnerer wrote:
Mine is "middle-cleated"...that is, the block with v-jam cleat is partway between, neither at mast base nor at boom end. It hangs roughly over the front-middle of the companionway hatch. Don't have a picture at the moment...description is:
Single block at boom end attaches to small u-shackle which attaches to bail on boom. Double block with v-jam cleat has u-shackle which connects to webbing sling (loop of webbing) which has a snap shackle at mast end, which clips onto a bail on mast baseplate. So it could also clip to toe rail as a preventer, if there was enough excess line to reach that far.
The webbing loop is probably about 9" long, give or take a few inches. So that's why the block ends up partway between. It would seem too crowded to have the block down at mast base, getting in way of opening hatch fully, and the line harder to grab easily or to release if release needed a downward pull.
cheers, John
On 10/8/19 2:54 PM, Henry Rodriguez wrote:
I notice some boats have the block with the cam cleat mounted at the mast base, others have it attached at the boom end. I know it is a matter of personal preference but what is the consensus? Is it more convenient to cleat it at the top or at the bottom on a 17? My current cascaded set up has the tail lead to a cam cleat on the cabin top, just like the halyards. I imitated the setup from my VN23 but am thinking that is overkill. I want to change back to a self contained system to free up space on the cabin top. The vang will have snap shackles on each end so it can be cleated to the perforated toe rail if desired. It will be 4:1 or 3:1. I don’t see a need to add a doubler. So, top cleating or bottom cleating?
Henry Monita
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