I did practice the hove to combo Friday.? Had a nice sail for about two hours.? I didn't do the practice reef as I want someone with me so I have extra help if I screw up? My wife and I are getting a list together of? the things we need to practice Before we need them for real.? Also the things we want to get for the boat and the maintenance we need to do over the winter.? I can't tell you how great it is to have a wife that is as interested in sailing as I am Thanks for all the great advice. At your service Larry Pegg Pilgrim M-17 #55 208 249 0538 -----Original Message----- From: Doug Kelch <doug_kelch@yahoo.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 6:22 am Subject: Re: M_Boats: Columbia Joe, You heave to with whatever sail you have up. Sheet the jib in tight, start the tack and head directly into the wind and as the boat slows down fall off on the new tack and without picking up any speed try to tack back without un-sheeting the jib and letting the main out so that the boom is a couple of feet out from the stern quarter.? Keep the tiller as far to leeward as can and tie it off. Each boat/ sail combination will balance differently so there is no magic formula other than the general set up.? The main and jib will balance each other around the center of lateral resistance with some slight movement forward.? The rudder is almost sideways to the direction of the boat to act as a brake. You should have the jiffy reefing tail on the boom far enough forward that you are not down on the lee side of the boat while you are reefing. As you reef the main the bow may fall off a little bit but not enough to affect the position. Thanks Doug Kelch --- On Sat, 11/22/08, Joe Murphy <seagray@embarqmail.com> wrote: From: Joe Murphy <seagray@embarqmail.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Columbia To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 9:58 PM Connie, How much jib and main do you have up when you heave to? Or is that a function of wind speed?? Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: <chbenneck@sbcglobal.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 3:09 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Columbia
Heaving to should be in every sailor's bag of tricks....
Practice doing it a few times, and it becomes second nature.
To heave to, you come about but don't release the jib sheet. The jib is now backwinded.
Now put the tiller over to counteract the action of the jib, which is trying to push the bow to leeward, .... lash the tiller at the position where you can hold your position - with a light line, and the ship settles down; going forward very slowly, but almost at a stop.
Now you can visit the head... for some quiet contemplation
Tuck a reef in the main
Make a cup of coffee
The boat is under total control - going nowhere very slowly.
Connie
larrypegg@aol.com wrote:
Ahhhh the old hove to,, I knew there was an easier way.? I have a jiffy reef but i couldn't figure out how to get everything to be loose and under control at the same time.
At your service
Larry Pegg
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-----Original Message----- From: Doug Kelch <doug_kelch@yahoo.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 1:15 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: Columbia
I have jiffy reefing (slab reefing) on the reefing clew of my M15.
Before I added the topping lift I could reef reasonably well by hauling in on the clew jiffy reefing about 1/2 way. Then lowering the main 1/2 way, hauling the clew jiffy reefing so it is now about 3/4 of the way then lowering
the halyard to get the tack in place.? Then finish hauling the clew down tight.
This points the boom up towards the mast but it is stopped by the boom
vang so on my boat you had to adjust a couple of times.
All this is done while you are hove to so the boat is under control.
I don't know if this will work with the M17 but I don't know why not.
You can install the jiffy reefing without lowering the mast.
Thanks
Doug Kelch M15 "Seas the Day"
--- On Fri, 11/21/08, larrypegg@aol.com <larrypegg@aol.com> wrote: From: larrypegg@aol.com <larrypegg@aol.com> Subject: M_Boats: Columbia To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 12:52 PM
Well I've been out on the Mighty Columbia a few times now.? Not as much as I would like but that's how it goes this time of year.? I'm not nearly so brave when it's just me on the water.? I pull in my roller jib pretty early and am wishing for a topping lift for the main so I could reef if need be. the wind has been mostly very light and the one time it picked up we were already headed in.? Overall, I've learned some and had a good time.? The bad news is (good for Ida sailor) when I was single handing the first time I forgot to pull the rudder and almost ruined it.? My wife normally does this while I get the truck.? I salvaged it with some epoxy but it is in Bad shape.? So,
over the holiday, I'll take it to Joel and have a new swing up made . Anyone have experience with reefing the main with no topping lift.? is there a good sequence of action that makes it easy??
At your service
Larry Pegg Pilgrim M-17 #55
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