Dave and Jerry, Thanks for the reply, Exactly the info I needed. While "neglected" is too strong of a description for # 400, she is due for some TLC. We are getting to know each other and getting along just fine. The wind is blowin and now it's time to go for a sail. Thanks again. Kevin, Nauti-Cal ________________________________ From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com> on behalf of montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com <montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 1:00 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 184, Issue 20 Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com You can reach the person managing the list at montgomery_boats-owner@mailman.xmission.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Rudder Rod (Kevin Sandwick) 2. Re: Rudder Rod (Dave Scobie) 3. Re: Rudder Rod (jerry@jerrymontgomery.org) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 20:52:49 +0000 From: Kevin Sandwick <ksandwick@hotmail.com> To: "montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Rudder Rod Message-ID: <DM3PR16MB0569C7C12BC5DA3868A334F3AA4E0@DM3PR16MB0569.namprd16.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Looking for information on the rudder control rod. The shaft is bent on the boat I recently acquired. I was able to install the rudder but due to the bends in the rod I cannot raise the rudder. Is this part available or do I need to have one made? I have found an online source for C464 "Marine" brass but could use info on exact dimensions or better advice. As always.....Thanks. Kevin M-17 #400 (1985) ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 13:56:36 -0700 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Rudder Rod Message-ID: <CAGjBOA6gjUHC6AhkGBNaTUCuw35g58K0Nx7dPs4igMgDxx544Q@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" The rod is silicone bronze. Not sure the dimensions as mine is currently in use keeping the rudder on the boat ;-) Today is #61 living aboard! :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com On Fri, Jun 29, 2018, 1:53 PM Kevin Sandwick <ksandwick@hotmail.com> wrote:
Looking for information on the rudder control rod.
The shaft is bent on the boat I recently acquired. I was able to install the rudder but due to the bends in the rod I cannot raise the rudder.
Is this part available or do I need to have one made?
I have found an online source for C464 "Marine" brass but could use info on exact dimensions or better advice.
As always.....Thanks.
Kevin
M-17 #400 (1985)
------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 14:29:26 -0700 From: <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Rudder Rod Message-ID: <E2272F6541DB48B9B6429E07AB0AA1B9@CH002914> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Silicone bronze is fine; aluminum bronze is better, stainless is a distant third. it's 1/2", I don't remember the length but it shouldn't be hard to figure it out. For many years we used 316 stainless and drilled holes at the base to lock the rod in place with cotter keys but too many of them went bombs away when being installed so when we switched to alum bronze we had a step milled in the base, to /3/8", and changed the bottom gudgeon to 3/8, which is what we should have done in the first place. If your bottom gudgeon is drilled to 1//2" I'd suggest taking it to a machine shop and having I plate welded on, drilled to 3/8. At the same time have them turn about 3/4" of the end of the rod to 3/8 and you're gopopd to go. Don't forget the bedding. You can probably get the rod from McMasters. -----Original Message----- From: Dave Scobie Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 1:56 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Rudder Rod The rod is silicone bronze. Not sure the dimensions as mine is currently in use keeping the rudder on the boat ;-) Today is #61 living aboard! :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com On Fri, Jun 29, 2018, 1:53 PM Kevin Sandwick <ksandwick@hotmail.com> wrote:
Looking for information on the rudder control rod.
The shaft is bent on the boat I recently acquired. I was able to install the rudder but due to the bends in the rod I cannot raise the rudder.
Is this part available or do I need to have one made?
I have found an online source for C464 "Marine" brass but could use info on exact dimensions or better advice.
As always.....Thanks.
Kevin
M-17 #400 (1985)
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