Join us in the Great Lakes, Gilbert ... Just back from a 2-day sail, Leland, MI, to North Manitou, MI, to South Manitou, back to Leland ... Day 1: Waves 2-4' ... Day 2: Waves 3-5' ... I think 3-5' waves, COMFORTABLY, in a 17' boat is pretty impressive ... Love the M17 ... ----- Original Message ----- From: Gilbert Landin To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 11:56 AM Subject: RE: M_Boats: re: Setting Up the M15 I have already started practicing. On another tack, I was out on my sunfish teaching a friend the art of capsizing, and I must admit that I had forgotten how much fun fresh water sailing is. I mean no jelly fish, no salt sting in the eyes, and best of all a mouthful of freshwater is not as bad. My sailing is 99.9% salt water and after every sail there is a fresh water rinse. The Lake is an hours drive away and then temperatures get more bearable (below 90 degrees) I will defiantly treat Sagitta to a fresh water sail. BTW I burned twice as bad as when out in salt water. Being in a fresh water environment sure can lull you into a false sense of cool. gilbert _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats