Clever stuff... There's also purpose-made items like this: http://www.tuffjug.com/ (A UK product but similar no doubt available in USA) Most are made for other small engine users (motorbikes, jet skis, quad-bikes, etc. where there's also a need to fill a small tank quickly and cleanly). cheers, John S. On 09/22/2015 12:07 PM, Conbert Benneck wrote:
On 9/22/2015 12:38 PM, James Poulakis wrote:
Jim,
I had two solutions to refueling my 2 HP HONDA.
-1 I used 1 quart oil containers. They are small; store easily; are easy to pour; and you have no spills when you are refilling the tank in fairly smooth water.
-2 I had a spare remote fuel container. Use an outboard tank hose with a bulb pump in the middle. One end of the hose is in the fuel container; the other in the HONDA fuel tank. You squeeze the bulb, and can very nicely control fuel flow and fuel amount in the tank - i.e., no spillage.
Connie
Spirit rocks a 4hp Mercury that rarely gets run at over half-throttle. For the minimalist my guess is that the 2hp Honda is enough. My issue is that if you sail in places like San Francisco Bay and coastal Pacific you might run into windless situations where 1) you’ll want enough power to push you against the occasional 4+ knot current and 2) you’ll want to hook up an external tank to give you plenty of range so you don’t have to refuel by hand in the middle of the aforementioned 4+ knot current. Of course, it’s always more seamanlike (and fun) to just hang out and wait for the tide to ease up. I guess 4hp motors are for guys like me who have to be at work Monday morning.
- Jim M-17 “Spirit"
On Sep 19, 2015, at 3:16 AM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
Can you flip an ob around for reverse if it sits in the cutout in the transom without the prop hitting the stern of the boat?
On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Rick Davies <jdavies104@gmail.com> wrote:
The Honda 2 reverses by flipping the motor around. Not quite as convenient as a shift lever, but only takes a few seconds.
Rick M17 #633 Lynne L
On Friday, September 18, 2015, <swwheatley@comcast.net> wrote:
I have a 5 hp 2 stroke on my M17 and anything over 1/2 throttle just buries the stern. (Yes, I could get a prop with less pitch, but I rarely use the motor so it hasn't been a priority). Based on that, I think 3.5 hp would be adequate. The only issue is sub-4 hp motors do not have a reverse gear. That may or may not be important to you.
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From: "John Schinnerer" <john@eco-living.net <javascript:;>> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com <javascript:;>> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 3:32:39 PM Subject: M_Boats: M17 motor requirements
OK, changing the topic a bit based on this:
On 09/18/2015 11:59 AM, Dave Scobie wrote:
...the 4HP Suzuki on my M17 is running at less than 50% to reach cruise speed. So what is anyone's experience on what HP outboard is adequate for an M17? Mine came with this nice, low hours Tohatsu 6hp sail pro model. It seems to me like overkill.
And, with Tohatsu at least, no point downgrading to their 5hp or 4hp because they are the same carcass, basically same size and weight.
Looking at Evinrude, Mercury, Suzuki, Honda...all making the same basic range of motors, same weight within a few pounds in HP class, etc.
The break point is under 4 hp, where the 2.5-3.5 hp units are significantly lighter and smaller.
Any experiences welcome - what do you find adequate for your M17 auxiliary motor needs?
thanks, John S.
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