Sir Just go to Home Depot and but a stainless bolt 5 inches. Hacksaw it to length. $6 bucks. Bob Sent from my iPad
On May 15, 2022, at 5:33 AM, Deane Atherton <deanathe@hotmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for centreboard pin stats folks. I’m sourcing rod locally here in Canada. No doubt I’ll find the original pin after I go to the trouble. And Jerry, it is one of your boats. We brought her up from Virginia to Ontario where we explore the north shore of Georgian Bay together. She’s one tough little boat.
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Date: Sun, 8 May 2022 14:10:56 -0700 From: John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> Subject: M_Boats: Re: Centreboard pin dimensions To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <bd94cef7-dcc8-a7c9-7ecd-0f5b0e00fc83@eco-living.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Duckworks has silicon bronze round rod: https://duckworks.com/silicon-bronze-round-rod/
Not cheap, but only fifty cents more than their stainless rod for a foot of 1/2".
For the extra fifty cents, you won't have to check it in 80 years... :-)
cheers, John
On 5/8/22 11:43, jerry montgomery wrote: If it's one of my boats, it's almost certainly 1/2". I don't remember the length but stick something thru the hole and you can measure it accurately.
Use bronze if you can find it, otherwise stainless is OK if you change it every 80 years or so.
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Hey folks,
Does anybody know the dimensions of the stainless pin that holds the centreboard. Unfortunately, I misplaced mine while doing a foil repair.
Cheers, Deane Atherton
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Date: Fri, 6 May 2022 22:32:53 +0000 From: Jim Sadler <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: M15 standing rigging To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <BY5PR13MB38594415C5C12628D91DEEB2D5C59@BY5PR13MB3859.nam prd13.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Thanks skippers Good advice j
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Thanks Skipper …..good advice!
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Jim:
Jerry and his crew built near 450 M15s that have the Nicopress eyes and the thru bolt at the hounds. I can't remember when I've read/heard one of these failing (I've read/seen the M15 shroud chainplates at the hull joint failing - one of the bolts because of crevice corrosion).
The lower machine swag fitting I've also done - using the same tool, meaning the tool Jerry actually used, to attach the fitting to the wire.
I've built many M15 standing rigs myself.
The work is easy and nothing complicated for an competent shop. The West Marine Rigging locations have trained staff. Same goes for smaller rigging shops.
The M15 rig is simple and strong. Folks have bent their masts after hitting trees and the shrouds survive with no obvious damage (though I would recommend replacing as they have obviously been stressed).
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On Fri, May 6, 2022, 12:18 PM Jim Sadler <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> wrote:
That’s the problem
How do you know if it was done right until you have lost your mast.
On my M15 the top of the shroud has a mickeymouse crimped fitting with a thimble and a thru bolt in the mast. It has served me well for the 40 yr I have owned the Pelican. It seem like a similar rigging would work just as well at the bottom of the shroud only with "hardware store" cable clamps.
As I am rounding the west end of Catalina I would at least not be wondering about the workman ship and experience of the technician at West Marine.
Does anyone ever load test these? They do this with crane rigging as a requirement.
Thanx Dave for your incite on this and everything else you have helped me with
I am on a mission to rig the Pelican to sail in the "real ocean" and be able to respond to those who ask "Does this cute little boat really go into the ocean?"
Capt Jim SV. Pelican
-----Original Message----- From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, May 6, 2022 11:04 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: M15 standing rigging
Jim:
can't you get a local rigger to do it right? Or send them to a rigger by mail? West Marine Rigging, or any rigging shop, can make you a new set.
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On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 10:32 AM Jim Sadler <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> wrote:
Yes (3) per connection with SS thimbles
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You mean hardware store wire rope clamps like this?
https://www.acehardware.com/departments/hardware/chain-and-rope/rope-a nd-chain-accessories/5007037
Or something else?
cheers, John
On 5/6/22 08:10, Jim Sadler wrote:
Any of u skippers us cable clamps for standing rigging? Bad idea?
Thanks Capt Jim SV Pelican M 15
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Date: Sat, 7 May 2022 15:45:55 -0700 From: Jon Barber <brbrbarber@gmail.com> Subject: M_Boats: Registration To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <CAFwAWQuL1PoemYSidEUYR+0oeBZuH-baR9HL=60ADmRKoCLLRQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Looking at my registration and title I see I am owner of a Mongomery sailboat. Will you other sailors check your documents and tell me how your boats are titled? I have a CA title.
Jon Barber Monty17 Ol'44
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Looks like someone at the registration office slipped up why typing.
I've read that some folks have their titles/registrations messed up stating their Montgomery is a 'Montgomery Ward'.
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On Sat, May 7, 2022, 3:46 PM Jon Barber <brbrbarber@gmail.com> wrote:
Looking at my registration and title I see I am owner of a Mongomery sailboat. Will you other sailors check your documents and tell me how your boats are titled? I have a CA title.
Jon Barber Monty17 Ol'44
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Date: Sun, 8 May 2022 21:16:44 -0400 From: WILLIAM CAMPION <wcampion@aol.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: Registration To: dalew <dalew@e3digital.com>, For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <CDC355FD-F5F9-481C-B83A-DC17841D0EFB@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Jon,
I owned an M-10 for awhile and it was titled as a Montgomery Ward. After I bought the boat I tried to have it corrected but that opened up a whole other can of worms. So I sailed my Montgomery Ward for a few years before I ended up selling her.
William Campion
On May 8, 2022, at 4:17 PM, dalew <dalew@e3digital.com> wrote:
Ha! The title for my Minnesota 1980 M17 also says SEAKING and I always wondered where that came from. Now I know!
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Correction: I just double checked my registration card. Monita is registered as a 1979 SEAKING!
SEAKING is the house brand name Montgomery Ward used for their outboard motors and other boating gear back in the day. I believe the Seaking Motors were actually made by Evinrude.
Not a big deal as it is on the state DNR registration only. No titles for boats here in MN.
Henry M17 Monita
On Sat, May 7, 2022, 6:46 PM Henry Rodriguez <heinzir@gmail.com> wrote:
Yep. Mine is a MonkeyWards.
Henry Monita
On Sat, May 7, 2022, 6:03 PM Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Looks like someone at the registration office slipped up why typing.
I've read that some folks have their titles/registrations messed up stating their Montgomery is a 'Montgomery Ward'.
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On Sat, May 7, 2022, 3:46 PM Jon Barber <brbrbarber@gmail.com> wrote:
Looking at my registration and title I see I am owner of a Mongomery sailboat. Will you other sailors check your documents and tell me how your boats are titled? I have a CA title.
Jon Barber Monty17 Ol'44
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Date: Sat, 14 May 2022 11:09:34 -0400 From: Lang Smith <envirogeogprof@gmail.com> Subject: M_Boats: M15 for sale in Pennsylvania To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <CAOEvHOBgKj8C2R0xHV7K+_gkpKMFjLuAPp-3PYdUed04g3ujyg@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
1985 M15 for sale in great shape. New sails, Honda outboard, sail covers, only used lightly for two seasons. Has nice aluminum trailer, but will need homemade trailer title if you plan to license it. Was a Wisconsin boat, where small trailers are not licensed. Located in Grove City, Pennsylvania. Email for photos, more info. $5,900. Lang Smith: envirogeogprof@gmail.com
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