Hi John, I have a working jib(109), my boat is one of the very first of the V2 molds, it has short jib tracks (@18 inches) fitted in very close to the cabin. With the way my 109 is cut I typically have the sheet blocks set mid span most of the time. The 109 works out very well sailing in Georgia Straight in the spring and fall or just about any time sailing in Howe Sound! It pushes me along quite comfortably in the 12 to 18 kt range without having to furl the jib (with a reef in the main at the upper end of that range), and with the rig tensioned right it points pretty well on a close haul when fully unfurled and decently well when moderately reefed. I chose the 109 in concert with deciding to have an A3 asym which has plenty of drive in light air for AWA's from about 75 deg thru 165, perfect for reaching or running across Georgia straight in the light airs of summer. Without the A3 I would probably go with a 135 to get better performance in light air and still be manageable for long periods of time sailing in heavier weather. Given my local sailing conditions I don't think I would personally choose a 150 as it's more sail than I would want in a good percentage of my sailing opportunities, but that's perhaps just the conservative sailor in me talking. Keith Keith R. Martin, P.Eng Serenity, M17 #353 On Aug 17, 2017 10:07 PM, "John Schinnerer" <john@eco-living.net> wrote: Thanks Keith for the first hand experience. A couple more "research" questions... What size jib is yours when fully unfurled? I think someone else said they had a 135 on a furler. Do you find you have to move the jib sheet blocks when reefing using the furler, to get proper sheet angle? Or does the clew position change as you reef in such a way that the same block location works OK? thanks, John S. On 08/17/2017 04:57 PM, Keith R. Martin wrote:
John,
I've only had a CDI FF2 for 3 years now, in the first year year I was stepping the mast a lot doing some true trailer sailing & day trips as opposed to being in a Marina Slip. I kept the jib furled on the furler when trailering during the season, only taking it off when the boat was put away for the winter. In doing so I never found the CDI to add much if any time to the set up, it's flexible but tough construction makes it pretty seamless to use when stepping and un-stepping the mast.
In the limited time I have had the CDI (relative to others on this email group), I have had a very good experience with it. It's been totally reliable and has never jammed or fouled on me irrespective of sailing conditions.
Keith
*Keith R. Martin, P.Eng.*
*Burnaby, B.C. Canada* *Serenity, M17 #353*
On 17 August 2017 at 15:50, John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
I have been pondering this myself, since at least two of my headsails are
probably ancient, I single-hand a lot, and my passengers are seldom capable crew in that regard (e.g. they're not gonna just go change the headsail for me without major hand-holding).
And, three new sails would be about 1/3 more $$$ than one sail and a reefer/furler. There is the windage penalty with the furler, plus a bit more to do when rigging up and down, to consider.
Several folks here have used and recommended the CDI FF2 furler in past posts.
I was just reading up on it and it seems to be a well thought out design, especially for trailer sailors.
I wouldn't mess with the headsail/forestay attachment geometry, myself; no way do I know enough about that stuff.
Different sail sizes will have different clew heights of course. My 80% is higher clew than the bigger sails. Working jib is probably a wee bit higher than genoa.
Jerry can no doubt speak to this topic from vast experience.
cheers, John S.
On 08/17/2017 03:39 PM, Tyler Heerwagen via montgomery_boats wrote:
Headsail is dying, coming apart, forestay is bent and kinked.Thinking
about getting a new headsail, ideally furling, maybe suited for single-handing, since that is my normal mode.Has anyone tried a headsail with a shorter J and or LP dimension, including maybe a higher Clew?Any recommendations?Thanks,Tyler H.M17 Seranita1977 #232
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