Or as I heard one veteran "Looper" say, "you don't sail the loop, you drive it". But I guess if you got real comfortable with raising/lowering the mast on the run... Or perhaps reconfigure the mast to a real low aspect rig. Joe SeaFrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: August Trometer To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:49 PM Subject: M_Boats: Great Loop One article I read (Dagmar - check the internet) about the great loop was done by a P15 with mast removed and two Honda 2 hp. Not much sailing! August & Susan Trometer 5711 Longleaf Dr North Fort Myers, FL 33917 239 849 4681 atrometer@gmail.com or atrometer1940@yahoo.com Nonsuch SV 22' #25, Montgomery SV 15, Casita 17' LD "Eggelweiss", 09 Jeep Liberty TV