Hi Joe... Actually the outer holes are the normal backstay leg locations. The inner holes are intended for attaching a backstay adjuster. Let me know if you need anything. Later Bob
From: seagray@embarqmail.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:30:42 -0500 Subject: Re: M_Boats: Backstay
Hi Bob, Thanks for the reply. I have plenty of thread left in the forestay toggle to lengthen the headstay. I just need to shorten the backstay. I took off the two spit backstays and repositioned them to the outermost holes in the plates that hold them to the stern. I'm thinking of just taking the turnbuckle apart and grinding off some of the thread if I could drill a new cotter pin hole..) Backstay tensioner...hmm, now there's a thought. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob From California" <ocean37@hotmail.com> To: "Monty Listserver" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:49 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Backstay
Hi Joe.
In your boat when we shipped it, was an extra toggle that adds about 1.5 inches to the headstay. (if you don't have it, I have a few of them; it is folded sheet metal with a rigging pin)
Of course if the add the toggle the backstay won't be able to tension the rig aft anymore because you've run out of threads. However you may be able to 'remove the toggle on the backstay wire up at the masthead (or move it forward to the headstay if you can't find the extra part). Another remedy is a backstay adjustor that fits across the split legs and can be locked in with a cam cleat to tension the mast aft and tighten up the CDI furler.
At least two things have to happen to get your mast racked aft:
1. Lengthen the CDI Headstay with a toggle
2. Shorten the backstay. (get a new shorter backstay top wire; perhaps 2.5 inches shorter.
But first, find that toggle.
If you want to mail me the backstay I can have our rigging man shorten it up for you.
later
Bob Eeg
(949) 489-8227
From: seagray@embarqmail.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:52:34 -0500 Subject: Re: M_Boats: Backstay
Thanks Jerry, So.... do I need a new backstay?? I have a CDI on the forestay that is cranked up pretty tight to keep the luff tight. But by the same token, the back stay is screwed down all the way. Horns on a dilema. Joe Seafrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: "jerry" <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 7:05 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Backstay
It's really unlikely that the backstay has stretched significantly; it has about half the load as the headstay.
Gobble gobble yourself!
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 7:22 PM Subject: M_Boats: Backstay
While I was trying to walk off the affects of the third day of triptophine overdose, I went to check on Seafrog. The water was flat as a table top so I checked the rake of the mast. I have my backstay tightened up as far as she'll go. The studs in the turnbuckle are touching within a paper thin gap. But the mast is near plumb. It was my understanding that I should have a rake. Last year it seemed I had a modest amount of rake. Is it possible that the wire for the stay has stretched?? Thanks. And I hope you all had a good Thanksgiving and that you have finally gotten rid of all the turkey leftovers. Gobble Gobble!! Joe Seafrog M17
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