i forgot to state - jerry has described the option of a t-track and sheet cars on the M17's side decks, close to the cabin sides, just forward of the cockpit combing and running forward of the cabin window. this will give a slightly tighter sheeting angle to a working jib and get you a few points closer to the wind. i've seen this setup on a few of the really old M17s (like those built between '75 - '78. this setup was popular with the 'racers', but not the cruisers because the track/block/etc took up 'foot space' on the sidedeck. :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: Sage Marine, builder of the Jerry Montgomery Sage 17 - www.sagemarine.com --- On Fri, 9/9/11, W David Scobie <wdscobie@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: W David Scobie <wdscobie@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where to put the jib blocks on a M17 To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Friday, September 9, 2011, 4:54 PM tom:
the jib sheets for the M17 run outside the shrouds on the toe rail. the M15 jib sheets run inside the shrouds.
Sage 17, jerry's latest design, the jib sheets run inside the shrouds and the genoa sheets outside the shrouds. Sage 17 points higher into the wind than the M17 or M15, because of the sheeting angle and a more efficient keel design.
you are correct that the M17 would point just a bit higher to the wind if the jib sheets ran inside the shrouds. as you have noticed there isn't the cabintop space to install jib car tracks.
the exact location to set the block on the M17s toe rail depends on wind speed, sail (cut, size and age) and the boat's angle to the wind. On SWEET PEA, my M17, i usually set the jib sheet blocks just forward of the cockpit combing in the area of the cabin window. this works well for my 110% working jib (a McKibbin sail). for the 150 the blocks are set just aft of the sheet winches.
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: Sage Marine, builder of the Jerry Montgomery Sage 17 - www.sagemarine.com
--- On Fri, 9/9/11, Tom Frei <tom.frei@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello all. I learn a lot from reading your emails. I was just reading a thread on sail sizes and read that one of the authors was thankful for the information of putting the 150 genoa blocks on the tow rail outside the shrouds. He seemed to imply that there was a mounting point for the smaller jibs somewhere between the shrouds. I'm new to rigging my recently purchased 1981 blue M-17 and I always put the blocks for the foresail (no matter what the size) on the toe rail. I imagine the boat could point better with the blocks located further towards the center of the boat. Am I doing this wrong? Where are your jib (say 100 sized) blocks normally located?
Thanks for your help.
Tom Frei
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