Because we hadn't come in contact with it when we tooled the 17. Lyle Hess designe3d the 17 setup, but remember that the 17 was originally a fixed keel boat. -----Original Message----- From: Tom Smith Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 6:11 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Rudder Lifting Mechanism So jerry, why didn't you do this kind of lifting mech. on the M17s? All the stock M17 rudders I'm familiar with lift on a bronze rod. Or did I miss something? t On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 5:31 PM, <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
The Sage 17 rudder is wood, like the M rudders. The blade is held up (oir down) by the tension coming from bungee cord (see previous post).
-----Original Message----- From: Howard Audsley Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 8:39 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Rudder Lifting Mechanism
Is the Sage 17 rudder made of wood, glass or composite?
If wood, does it need to be weighted to overcome the buoyancy to keep it from wanting to pop up. I would think the downhaul to be more important than the need to lock it up into place. If down and released, a wooden rudder would likely pop up on its own.
One of the more interesting rodeos I've had with my M17 was trying to install the rudder with the boat in the water. Getting that pin slipped into place with the rudder wanting to go anywhere but down was a struggle.
On Apr 2, 2015, at 11:05 AM, Dave Scobie wrote:
Howard:
Picture came though.
The Sage 17 rudder about 48" by 10". about three feet of length is in the water. the remainder is in the cheeks.
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On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Howard Audsley <haudsley@tranquility.net> wrote:
I am in Missouri. I was in San Fran once, but didn't lose anything there and never felt the need to go back. : )
Can this design be scaled up (assuming you also beef it up)?
If it worked, I attached a photo of the rudder. It has a chord length fore and aft of around 20", is about 46" from top to bottom and will finish just under 2" thick. Tiller is almost 6' long.
If the photo didn't make the trip, I'll post a link to it in photobucket.
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