Actually, Larry paid me extra to make his boat. It's all made with Kevlar, and if you count the hidden hydrogen tanks it only weighs 147 lbs! jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Yake" <larryyake@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 9:37 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Newbie's first question
Ha! No, CornDog's engine doesn't drag in any conditions so moving it onto a lowering bracket won't gain me any speed. Tried that once, actually, and didn't like it at all. Messed up the boat's balance. Probably slowed me down. Maybe you guys with the brackets ought to make a cutout in the transom...... ;-)
On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Tom Smith <openboatt@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't remember the cutout-mounted OB slowing Larry down any, but heaven forbid he does a mod that makes him even faster than he already is. Don't pay any attention to Ian's post, Larry.
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On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Stanley Wheatley <swwheatley@comcast.net
wrote:
Ended up getting a good deal on a used Mercury (made by Tohatsu) 5 hp two-stroke long shaft. It fits in the cutout pretty well so I've removed the scissor mount and put that on Craigslist. Many more questions to come.
-----Original Message----- From: Ian Black Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 9:20 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Newbie's first question
Hi All, Have to disagree with Larry on this one. I say use the attached motor mount. The Seaweeble (1982 model) had the factory fixed motor mount which sat at approximately the same height as the older cut out mounts. My long shaft Honda and newer long shaft Yamaha both dragged in the water when the port side was to leeward with more than two people in the boat (or one person and one of my more portly buddies). I removed the old fixed mount, replaced it with a scissor type mount. Voila! No more dragging in the drink!. I'm sure it added a tenth of a knot to the Seaweeble's already blinding speed. Thank goodness, Mark (M-23 Faith) taught me how to reef. Ian M-17 The mighty"Seaweeble"
On 11/12/2013 1:28 PM, Larry Yake wrote:
By all means, use the cutout in the transom. The boat is balanced better with the motor there rather than hanging off the back and it is much more convenient to control. What you will loose is the ability to turn the motor very far. The cutout is rather narrow and doesn't allow much room to swing with todays wider four stroke engines. No problem though as the boat maneuvers well with just the rudder for steering. The long shaft motor will work fine. Don't even think about the short shaft. Also, you will want to mount the motor as far away from the rudder blade as you can within the cutout to provide as much clearance from the prop as you can. As I recall, the Tohatsu/Nissan engine has the control arm offset to the port side which will not allow you to move the engine very far to the side. That's why I went with the Suzuki. The control arm comes out from the center of the engine allowing you to mount the motor farther from the rudder. Larry 1976 M17 CornDog
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 1:07 PM, <swwheatley@comcast.net> wrote:
My new-to-me M17 did not come with a motor. It did, however, come with a
big honking scissor-type motor mount hanging off the transom. Because it is a 1976, it also has the transom cut-out motor mount. The motor of my dreams is the Tohatsu/Nissan 4 stroke 4hp. It is available in short (15") and long (20") shaft. My question is, will the long shaft work reasonably well if it is mounted in the transom cut-out, or should I plan on using the scissor mount either way?
I would also be interested to hear whether the Tohatsu/Nissan 6hp "Sailpro" (25" shaft) works well with the transom cut-out. There are other reasons why I probably would not buy one of those but, if meant getting rid of the scissor mount, I would at least give it some thought.
Thanks
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