95 and humid already!! Uggly rudder questions: 1 - the rudder should stay elevated even when out of the water. Tighten up the bungee cord and it should be fine. 2. - I use a tiller extension almost all of the time. I use a forespar telescoping version with the pin in the tiller. The new designs with the black flexible joints seem to work fine as I used one on my race boat. The telescoping mechanism can be a problem after a while. As to the forestay I cannot remember for sure. My M15 is an older Jerry Montgomery boat and the forestay fitting has 4 holes. The one farthest forward is very large and is used for the trailer boat hook attachment as these boats did not have a bow eye through the stem. I use the hole just aft of the large one for the forestay and the one aft of that for the jib shackle. Thanks Doug Kelch ________________________________ From: Karen and Smiley <magoo252@comcast.net> To: Montgomery Sailboat Forum <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 9:49:10 AM Subject: M_Boats: Rudder question M 15 We aborted today's maiden voyage due to excessive heat in the mid Atlantic, predicted highs are around 95F so no go for this guy. We instead rigged M 15 #616 in the school parking lot to see the sail plan and the rigging set up. NICE and Stan Froseth did a great job on everything, if your reading this not from the Aloha State Thanks Stan. I do have one question on the rudder, well actually two. The first is the mechanism on dry land seems to not want to pull the rudder up in the horizontal position, I assume it's because I have no buoyancy from the water below on the wood blade? Second do you sailors use a tiller extension to move your body weight up forward? Man the rigging and set up on the M15 is a breeze. Oh I forget to ask when do you attach the forestay to the deck fitting, mine is on the second hold back and that means that I need to attach the jib to the first hole forward? This seems odd so maybe a fitting that will slip into the last hole will be best. Thanks for your feedback. Smiley magoo252@comcast.net _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!