Rick, Your wish maybe close to coming true!!!!??? There is a company making beer with a cooling option.? I watch al ot of educational TV and not long ago, a gentleman was marketing a six pack that was simular to the self heating soup cans, but will cool the beer within 15-30 minutes.? Google "self cooling beer cans".? I think you'll be happy!! Skip M-15 #201 Wild Guppy -----Original Message----- From: Rick Langer <farreach@optonline.net> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Mon, Aug 10, 2009 12:29 pm Subject: M_Boats: No Ice Food Options Howard,? ? My experience is that the ice option is driven by meat and beer. I don't eat meat so that's easy, but warm beer is unacceptable and I haven't found a solution to that yet. I've tried submerging the beer as far as 50 feet, but it still doesn't get cold like with ice.? ? As to food, bananas, broccoli, eggs and seasonal fruits tend to last at least a week if kept cool and protected from bouncing around. I always bring potatoes and onions. For me nothing beats a pan of home fries and a can of beans. Milk, both soy and cows is available in small single use containers which is good for a no cook breakfast of granola. Instant oatmeal is also good for breakfast.? ? I know they are not all over the country, but in the northeast we have a store called "Trader Joe's" and this place is great for no ice cruising. They have many products in boil bags which offer a great meal with little fuss. Just boil water, drop it in, cut the bag open and eat. The few dishes you do dirty are easily taken care of with the left over hot water. They have soups, all kinds of rice, Mexican, tuna, a line of Indian food, and an Indian Thali (3) dish dinner all in bags that is just wonderful. On my week cruise to Moosehead Lake I brought two of those and ate both. They also have a four cheese lasagna in a boil tray that might be the best I've ever had. All this without ice and an added benefit is that whatever you don't use gets saved for the next cruise or to eat at home, very little that's perishable and the boil bag concept produces very little trash. I produce about one small plastic shopping bag a week of garbage.? ? I don't have any trouble eating for up to a couple of weeks without ice, but I do miss having salad. And of course don't forget you fishing pole.? ? Rick? M15 #337 Bluebird? ? p.s. We need an invention like those instant hand warmers only with the opposite affect, that will chill a beer on demand. ? _______________________________________________? http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats? ? Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!?