I will eventually. I don't have photos right now, and I would have to rig in the driveway. The next time I rig I will take some photos of the setup I use. Maybe some others have their setup photographed! Daniel On Jul 8, 2012, at 12:59 PM, pam and dana wrote:
Would someone be so kind as to add a couple pictures to illustrate both the mast end and other end of the boom hardware. As a novice, sometimes the language alone gets in the way of clear understanding.
Thanks, Pam M17 Port Townsend, Wa
On Jul 8, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Tom Jenkins wrote:
I agree that tack cringles are relatively easy to secure with a hook, but I found that a 2-3" loop of light line backed by a plastic ball on the opposite side of the cringle makes securing to the hook faster. Sometimes I had struggled to get the second cringle over the hook with folds of sail in the way. I tried a turning block on either side of the boom with a jam cleat for each, but it takes longer to coil up and secure the long tails than it takes to put cringles over a hook. Trust me, a long tail of rope dangling from the boom while you are tacking in a blow (with help from Senor Murphy) can cause big problems.
For the leech cringles, I have a turning block and cleat for each on the starboard side, with eye straps to port. The tails are easier to deal with on the aft end of the boom, and it works okay. Frankly, a line secured to the cringle with 8" or so hanging down each side might work just as well, if you can tie a quick square knot around the boom when it is bouncing around. some kind of ball and socket quick fastener on the ends would be sweet.
Incidentally, I have an M17, but I believe it came with the same boom hardware as the 15's of that vintage.
Tom Jenkins
On Jul 8, 2012, at 9:51 AM, Daniel Rich wrote:
The reefing hook is like 25 bucks, and really easy to do. You just take out the cotter pin on the gooseneck, and put the new tack-hook on. That is it. It is really secure when you drop the main and hook it in, and then tighten the halyard.
Daniel On Jul 8, 2012, at 9:47 AM, judy casino wrote:
My M15 is also a 2007 model that I bought new directly from Bob Eeg. The topping lift was standard, and the boom-end blocks and cleats are as described by Tim. There was no jiffy reefing system. I sized and tied reefing lines to the free-foooted mainsail grommets. They work fine for reefing, but it does take a bit longer to secure the sail down in the reefing position, versus using a reefing hook and cleat system. Ron Casino M15, "Spirit" San Diego
________________________________ From: Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2012 9:26 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Mainsail reefing
Your boat was built by Bob Eeg. He is on this list and could let you know what is standard. I think what you describe is actually for the reefing, and is being used for another purpose. Do you have a reefing hook on your gooseneck? If you do not, it is really easy to add it. My 1982 boat did not have that. You can find it here:
https://www.dwyermast.com/items.asp?cat1ID=40&cat1Name=Hardware&familyID=17&...
It is the DH 680.
That makes it so much easier to reef, especially on the fly. You just loosen the main halyard with the topping lift holding the boom, lower the main to the hook, hook the new tack, and tighten the aft reefing line with the cleat. Voila. So, I would set up my topping lift in some other manner, and also change the outhaul, and use the cleats and blocks you have for the reefing. You then need lines starting on a dead eye on one side of the boom, up through the grommet on the sail, down to the block, and to the cleat. If you don't have dead eyes on the boom, they are very easy to add. One of us can supply pictures if you like.
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
On Jul 8, 2012, at 8:48 AM, Tim Erwin wrote:
Hello from the Texas Redneck Riviera I am new to the boat and new to the group. I have learned a great deal from the discussions and looking to learning more. After sailing my Alberg 30 for many years she became too much for me. I've done a great deal of research on smaller boats and the M15 won out , hands down. I am very fortunate I found one 3 hours from my home. I'm 64 and have MS but I'm going to keep on sailing and this boat is going to allow me to do that. Now for my question. My boat is a 2007 model. Looking around, standard equipment is mainsail reefing . There is no sign of any reefing equipment on the boom. There are two turning blocks and two cleats on the outboard end. They are for the topping lift and outhaul. No other equipment on the boom at all. The mainsail has grommets for double reef! Do you think this boat was delivered incomplete? Do you think the folks that made this boat gave a discount for taking less than standard equipment or stripped down? I'm confused at least. Can anyone help me figure this out. Thanks, Tim Erwin. M15 # 641 Dark Star, Rockport, Texas