We lost the cup in '83. If draft isn't an issue, I'd just go with a plain keel extension like the one on the MSOG photo site. It will be easier to get it to work well. Tod Mills M17 #408, 1987 galley model BuscaBrisas
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Ken Wheeler Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 10:12 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 wing keel -- sacrilege?
Ronnie, That sounds like what I saw, it came out right after the US lost the Americas cup to Australia whatever year that was. Everything was wing keels for awhile. Glad to hear yours performs so well, wish I had bought one back then instead of the Catalina 25 I bought. Anyway I am happy with my swing keel (centerboard) M17 but if I had a choice I would go for the fixed or wing keel. I think I'll take our earthquakes over your hurricanes any day. Ken from California ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronnie Keeler" <ronkeeler@hotmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:41 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 wing keel -- sacrilege?
Ken,
I have 1974 M17 #14 which has a fin keel with a rather long, wide, square sectioned bulb that might be thought of as a wing. It draws 39" and when Griselda belonged to my brother, we could outrun any of the keel/cb M17s on Lake travis. Griselda is now mine after sitting neglected in my brothers yard for 15 years. She is on her trailer in my yard getting a complete refit and I hope to have her back in the water soon.
I had a bit of a delay in the work on her due to Hurricane Ike passing directly over us with 75 mph winds. I tied her down to house trailer anchor augers and she rode it out fine with only a shredded sunbrella cover to show for the storm. I am glad she was not in the water because I had 5 foot breaking waves over the dock and boathouse. When we get electric power back to run the sander and spray gun and I have repaired some damage to the house and dock, work will continue.
Ron M17 #14 (fin keel) Griselda
From: wesi@comcast.net> To: dicknatta@yahoo.com; montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 08:13:53 -0700> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 wing keel -- sacrilege?> > I remember looking at winged-keel version that Montgomery was building in > the 70's I think. Anyone out there got one?> Ken from California> --- -- Original Message ----- > From: "Dick Straubel" <dicknatta@yahoo.com>> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 5:23 AM> Subject: M_Boats: M17 wing keel -- sacrilege?> > > Hesitate to even mention this to the Montgomery faithful -- don't want to > trigger a wave of purist outrage -- but has anyone considered a wing keel on > a Montgomery 17? Have mine in salt water which can cause problems with the > CB trunk. Maybe a stainless plate about the same weight as the CB could be
bolted up against the bottom of the keel. Could extend out to the sides as > does a wing keel. Would achieve same weight, same shallow draft, and solve > some CB problems. Probably not the same windward performance, but might be a > reasonable trade off.> > Dick Straubel> > > > > > _______________________________________________> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi- bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats> > > _______________________________________________> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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