It's possible that the problem could be the amount of drop in the board. We always set the knot for drop of 15" . The knot has been known to migrate, but it can't migrate much or the board will bottom out on the front of the trunk (a no-no!). Of the three 15's I've taken to Mexico for cruising, none had this problem unless I raised the board fast. Check the 15" now and then. ________________________________ From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2023 11:07 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: Centerboard pendant Jon: Water coming up the pennant hole is really common but also not. My M15 nor my M17 had much water come up. The M15 has more but seemingly much less that some others reported on theirs. My M17 had almost none (really only had when pulling up the board). The M17 had a cast iron board. The water coming up the hole can sometimes be decreased by partially lifting the board. This is really only recommended for the M15 boards. Why some boats have water issues and others don't had always been a puzzle. Note: for M17 cast iron centerboard boats always lower the board to the stop line and rest board on pin. For the M15s and the M17s with the M15 boards lower to almost the pennant stopper knot and cleat the line. On all boats when not sailing lift up the board! If the board is left down it will rock and this can walk the rotation pin out of the keel!! :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: former owner SV SWALLOW - sailboatswallow.wordpress.com/ :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com On Thu, Aug 24, 2023, 14:48 Jon Barber <brbrbarber@gmail.com> wrote:
Water spurts out the pendant hole on my boat, when slogging to windward. Does anyone else have this problem? Sometimes water shoots across the cabin, making quite a mess. I've tried plugging the hole, to some success. Has anyone made a slot gasket for the board at the bottom of the keel? Maybe some vinyl strips to keep the water from surging up the slot? Any thoughts are appreciated. Monty17 Ol'44
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 19:20:08 +0000 From: Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: Center board pennant To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <BYAPR14MB2520DE7A2F35FB32CE9A1265B71DA@BYAPR14MB2520.nam prd14.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
I assume it’s wire cable.? Where do you live.?
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On Aug 24, 2023, at 11:05 AM, Douglas Vogel via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Good morning sailers,
Does anyone have a source for a centerboard pennant for my Montgomery 17 # 325. West Marine seems to want $145 for one….
Thanks, Doug Vogel
C:307-730-2971
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 12:22:33 -0700 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: Center board pennant To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <CAGjBOA62KUssYNeUxeOh6UOsUWHsy0Swtz=zi2j8a65V_= nzuw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Doug:
Something else, IMO, going on of replacing that often. Where is line wearing?
The line on my old M17 is 15 or so years old. Was looking fine when dropped board in early '19 so only old knot cut off and new bowline tied.
Challenge with a grommet is greater chance of jamming in and damage to the trunk.
:: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: former owner SV SWALLOW - sailboatswallow.wordpress.com/ :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com
On Thu, Aug 24, 2023, 11:34 Douglas Vogel via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Is there any kind of grommet I could install to minimize chafe ? This is my second pennant replacement in 8 years. Thanks Dave. Doug
On Aug 24, 2023, at 12:22 PM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
For the cast iron board boats all it is is a 5/16" double braid line. The centerboard end remove about 6-8" of the core tie a small bowline to the board.
For the M15-centerboard boats the line is also 5/16", still remove the core but instead tie a 8-knot after running the line to the centerboard.
:: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: former owner SV SWALLOW - sailboatswallow.wordpress.com/ :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com
On Thu, Aug 24, 2023, 11:05 Douglas Vogel via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Good morning sailers,
Does anyone have a source for a centerboard pennant for my Montgomery 17 # 325. West Marine seems to want $145 for one….
Thanks, Doug Vogel
C:307-730-2971
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:33:29 -0600 From: Douglas Vogel <shadowmtlighting@icloud.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: Center board pennant To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <EAE59473-AB6B-4A96-A862-A048908D6C73@icloud.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Hi Dave, Right at the trunk hole. I think my sailing partner may have left it slack . At the buoy, the centerboard does move and make some noise. I usually try to lift the centerboard up 1 inch and winch it off to keep wear and tear off the pin. Thanks for your advice . As usual … Doug
On Aug 24, 2023, at 1:22 PM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Doug:
Something else, IMO, going on of replacing that often. Where is line wearing?
The line on my old M17 is 15 or so years old. Was looking fine when dropped board in early '19 so only old knot cut off and new bowline tied.
Challenge with a grommet is greater chance of jamming in and damage to the trunk.
:: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: former owner SV SWALLOW - sailboatswallow.wordpress.com/:: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com
On Thu, Aug 24, 2023, 11:34 Douglas Vogel via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Is there any kind of grommet I could install to minimize chafe ? This is my second pennant replacement in 8 years. Thanks Dave. Doug
On Aug 24, 2023, at 12:22 PM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
For the cast iron board boats all it is is a 5/16" double braid line. The centerboard end remove about 6-8" of the core tie a small bowline to the board.
For the M15-centerboard boats the line is also 5/16", still remove the core but instead tie a 8-knot after running the line to the centerboard.
:: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: former owner SV SWALLOW - sailboatswallow.wordpress.com/ :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com
On Thu, Aug 24, 2023, 11:05 Douglas Vogel via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Good morning sailers,
Does anyone have a source for a centerboard pennant for my Montgomery 17 # 325. West Marine seems to want $145 for one….
Thanks, Doug Vogel
C:307-730-2971
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 19:37:50 +0000 From: Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: Center board pennant To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <BYAPR14MB2520E2FD9FE87F0BF3E8229EB71DA@BYAPR14MB2520.nam prd14.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
$145 for a piece of $6 line seems excessive. West marine must be joking.
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 24, 2023, at 12:34 PM, Douglas Vogel via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Hi Dave, Right at the trunk hole. I think my sailing partner may have left it slack . At the buoy, the centerboard does move and make some noise. I usually try to lift the centerboard up 1 inch and winch it off to keep wear and tear off the pin. Thanks for your advice . As usual … Doug
On Aug 24, 2023, at 1:22 PM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Doug:
Something else, IMO, going on of replacing that often. Where is line wearing?
The line on my old M17 is 15 or so years old. Was looking fine when dropped board in early '19 so only old knot cut off and new bowline tied.
Challenge with a grommet is greater chance of jamming in and damage to the trunk.
:: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: former owner SV SWALLOW - sailboatswallow.wordpress.com/:: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com
On Thu, Aug 24, 2023, 11:34 Douglas Vogel via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Is there any kind of grommet I could install to minimize chafe ? This is my second pennant replacement in 8 years. Thanks Dave. Doug
On Aug 24, 2023, at 12:22 PM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
For the cast iron board boats all it is is a 5/16" double braid line. The centerboard end remove about 6-8" of the core tie a small bowline to the board.
For the M15-centerboard boats the line is also 5/16", still remove the core but instead tie a 8-knot after running the line to the centerboard.
:: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: former owner SV SWALLOW - sailboatswallow.wordpress.com/ :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com
On Thu, Aug 24, 2023, 11:05 Douglas Vogel via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
> Good morning sailers, > > Does anyone have a source for a centerboard pennant for my Montgomery 17 # > 325. West Marine seems to want $145 for one…. > > Thanks, > Doug Vogel > > C:307-730-2971 > >
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