That might be a much simpler approach to what I'm proposing . . . The Timberline's poles are aluminum, so would be a little less flexible than fiberglass . . . But the Timberline being completely free-standing, with no spikes needed to pitch, would be very adaptable . . . Would 4-person be bigger than you'd need for the M15? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Smith, Tom" <Tom.Smith@itron.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 2:51 PM Subject: boom tent w/out lifelines? You know, another idea I've thought about is buying a used four person Eureka Timberline tent (or new for that matter--it's an inexpensive tent), and using the frame with just the rain fly. Seems like it would be easy enought to figure out attaching the bottoms of the poles to the toe rail and stabilizing the whole thing with the boom. t Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Sandpoint, Idaho M15-345, Chukar