Bill, I'm not an expert on deciphering the Monty VIN numbers, there isn't any number on the sail (like my other toys). I 'seem' to remember the paperwork stating Coba' was 1st sold in 1982. I also know the sails were like 'never used' (still folded and crisp in the sail kit bag). So anyway on the transom molded in, it says: MMP71648D 787 I think I'm confused here- I know how to extract the hull number from the MFR # on the Snipe - it's in the middle of the Mfr #. Is 787 the hull number for Coba'? or isn't that supposed to be the month & year made? Gordon M8 Coba' ----- Original Message ----- From: BILLAMICASR@aol.com To: gordonallgrove@mindspring.com Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 4:09 PM Subject: Coba Hi Gordon, I had some time today to work on the site and got your picture posted on page two of the MSOG boats and Owners section. I need the following for the site: What is the hull number? What state are you in? Take a look... www.MSOG.funtigo.com Bill