Cool - enjoy Lake of the woods! I'd come meet you (just an hour from here, was up there kayaking a couple days ago) but I'm going out of town for a while this coming weekend. cheers, John On 07/09/2018 07:28 AM, doug wrote:
These are great ideas and thank you so much. I can now add to my “To Do” list. I will be heading to Lake of the Woods in Oregon this coming weekend. Hopefully I can get the guide posts done by then. Sounds easy, but you know that ‘sounds easy’ is a red flag.
On Jul 9, 2018, at 5:23 AM, Conbert Benneck <chbenneck@gmail.com> wrote:
My solution to the centering of the keel over the rollers was to build a "Y" shaped keel centering device in the trailer using plastic pipe (add drain holes)
With this device, even if a cross wind is blowing and preventing the boat from being centered on the trailer, as soon as the keel enters the opening at the top of the "Y" it forces the boat to the middle of the trailer and as the boat keel enters the bottom of the "Y" it is forced to straighten up over the rollers so that it is always properly aligned.
It worked very well with a Trailrite trailer.
I also had vertical plastic pipes at the end of the trailer. If your trailer is underwater, and the water is murky, how can you know how to approach the trailer without guideposts?
Connie
ex M15 #400 LEPPO
On 7/9/2018 2:08 AM, Lawrence Winiarski via montgomery_boats wrote:
I have some keel guides made from PVC pipe (like 2") and held onto the trailer with stainless steel hose clamps. It helps a lot, i want to get a vertical set of guides also to help and I'm in process on that.
i will try and remember to take a picture the next time i unload. Are you going to Fern Ridge Lake
From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2018 8:56 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Problems A Honda 2 does not cause the boat to list in any significant way.
Floating the boat over the trailer makes alignment harder. Winching the boat on will help align it onto the center. You need to assure the boat is coming into the center of the trailer. Does take some practice. One of my cues that.tje boat.js centered are the fenders - same overhang both sides of the boat. While standing at the bow this can be seen - be willing to stand in the water (why I have zipoff pant legs and weat Crocks for launching & retrieving.
If the keel is close to the center of the roller you are good. The boat will center some as you travel. Drive a few miles and check the boat and re-snug the strap(s) securing the aft of the boay. To the trailer.
A tongue extension is only needed it you need to get the vehicle wet.
If your trailer is a Trail-Rite the bunks bunk supports are fixed and don't loosen (unless they are rusting away). The Pacific trailers have adjustable bunk supports that require occasional checking if the fasteners.
Some folks install keel guides. 1" PVC pipe tha go from the aft trailer bunk support to just outside the keel roller. This guides the keel to the roller.
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com
On Sun, Jul 8, 2018, 8:15 PM doug <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a 4 stroke Honda 2hp. I did position the vehicle so that the boat came about two thirds up the trailer and then I winched it the rest of the way. When I re-did this, I tried to float the boat to center on the trailer but it always seemed like the boat wanted to list to one side which made it off center on the trailer.
On Jul 8, 2018, at 7:20 PM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
How far into the water were the trailer bunks? So far in that the boat was floating above the trailer? Or did you need to pull the boat the final two or so feet onto the trailer (so the bow was testing against the trailer bow stop)?
What motor do you have? A Honda 2 or 2.3 doesn't cause the boat to list (and is more than enough motor for the M15).
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com
On Sun, Jul 8, 2018, 6:40 PM doug <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
I took my M-15 out for the day today on a nice lake in Oregon. But I discovered some issues that I need help on. The biggest one was getting the boat back on the trailer. It seems that the outboard weighs the boat to the starboard where it is mounted. With that small lean to starboard, the boat would not move up into the trailer in a balanced way. That ended up making it impossible to get the boat onto the trailer with the shoal draft keel resting on the rubber runners down the middle of the trailer. Instead the boat came out of the water with the keel resting outside the center of the trailer where its supposed to rest. I got in the lake several times trying to center the boat on the trailer. Am I missing something?
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