If anyone is looking for Raymarine stuff, Raymarine UK in England sells it for a lot less than it costs here in the US. So much less that even with the shipping it's still a really good deal. I just picked up an ST 60 depth display, without the transducer for use as a repeater, for $125. That's brand new with all the documentation, a short SeaTalk cable, the power cable and mounting hardware delivered to my door by DHL Express. Although it comes without the transducer it still has the transducer connections in back as well as the two SeaTalk connections so it can be used as a primary unit. It's not the newer ST 60 Plus but that too is cheaper over there. The funny thing is, that's Raymarine's headquarters so you are getting them from the source. The company maintains an eBay store at http://stores.ebay.com/raymarine-electronics Now I'm saving my pennies for the knotmeter, though having looked at the JDC Speedwatch I'm kind of torn between the two. Nice not to have to put another hole in the boat. _________________________________________________________________________________________________ Fair tide and a steady breeze, Nick