I used having my M17 to convince my wife I needed a Toyota Tundra V8, 5.7L. Can't really tell I'm towing anything except mileage drops from 17 to 15mpg. Go big. Best Regards, Tyler Heerwagen Mobile 408-667-2138 Sent from my iPhone, please excuse brevity and any typos
On Aug 25, 2015, at 8:27 PM, stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
I wanted a RAV 4 when I bought my Subaru Forester, but the Subaru dealer was willing to make a better deal than was the Honda dealer. Now I know why. FYI, last time I towed with my Ford Ranger V 6, within the past couple of weeks, it had a 156 K on the odometer and is still going strong. Steve M-15 # 335
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Riker" <wriker@mindspring.com> To: "M-Boats List" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 8:06 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: sorry to bring it up again Towing
Never had a problem with my ’97 Rav4 manual, on ramps or off. That clutch saw a lot of work, towing and backing, but was still okay when I sold the vehicle with 132k miles. It wasn’t fast towing up hills but there was always a gear where I could make progress without stressing the engine. There was an amazing difference, of course, when I upgraded to a Rav4 V6 with 269hp. Too bad Toyota stopped selling the manual transmission in the US.
Bill Riker M-15 - #184 Storm Petrel
On Aug 25, 2015, at 7:23 PM, stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
Standard transmissions in both cars, the Subaru and Ranger. Seemed to feel as well as smell the Subaru clutch slipping when I was outhauling my M-15 on relatively steep ramps. Have not had that problem with my Ford Ranger. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: <casioqv@usermail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 5:42 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: sorry to bring it up again Towing
Does it have a manual transmission?
When I had my Catalina 22 I towed with with two very similar 80s Volvo 7 series cars, one an automatic, and the other a manual. I couldn't get it up the steepest ramps at all with the manual car, but with the automatic it was effortless... it climbed up nearly at idle. I think the automatic torque converter really helped- I would guess it generated at least 10 times the force from a standstill as the manual did. In my opinion a manual transmission is great for towing a boat, but only on cars with a low range 4WD, otherwise they can hardly generate any force from a standstill.
Sincerely, Tyler Davis, CA M15 #157 Defiant
----- Original Message ----- From: "stevetrapp" <stevetrapp@q.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 5:30:49 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: sorry to bring it up again Towing
My Subaru Forester did not seem to have enough muscle to get my M-15 up the launch ramp when I did outhaul. This happened at ramps on Lake Couer D' Alene in Idaho, and again at a ramp on South Puget Sound. Now I use my aging, but reliable Ford Ranger V-6. Steve M-15 # 335
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