Bill, A couple of years ago I had the privilege of rigging my M15 next to Gary Oberbeck who was rigging his M17 at Lake Pleasant Phoenix AZ there is a difference and after I was done I helped him. I do have a tongue extension on the trailer and I only use it when the ramp does not go deep quickly. I don't mind getting the rear end of my Ford Sport Trac wet. Hope things go more smoothly as the M17 becomes more familiar to you Mark. Bill M15 Desert Dawn Phoenix On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Bill Day <bill@gotrain.org> wrote:
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Mark,
Quit timing yourself, and you'll save thirty minutes right there.
Also, do your setup without a helper, and that'll save you another thirty minutes. More, if it's your wife who's helping.
Seriously, I would try to find another 17 owner, and watch them rig and launch. Time each step, and take notes on how each step is done. You should be able to save another hour with the tips you pick up.
With a bit of practice, you should be able to rig and launch in a leisurely hour and a half.
Good luck. T Bill Day M15 363 "Gee Whiz!"
On May 25, 2011, at 8:44 PM, "Mark House" <itsmark@bresnan.net> wrote:
Having rigged my M-17 twice and taken it down once in the last few weeks, I'm wondering if I'm the slowest rigger alive. It took me 3 hours the first time, about the same the second. First two times I had help. So today when I set up to put the boat at a mooring for the summer, I timed myself. It tool me 2:34 hr. - not much improvement. Here's the breakdown:
17 minutes Remove all tie-downs after 1575 mile drive. 11 minutes Position mast and bolt base in tabernacle. 28 minutes Rig A-frame, raise mast. 33 minutes Attach and adjust all standing rigging. 20 minutes Rig trailer tongue extension. 30 minutes Attach boom, main, battens, flake sail, put on sail cover 15 minutes Unrig trailer tongue extension
Everything on the boat was well-tied-down for 1575 highway miles, and I took some extra time to adjust the inner shrouds. I simplify rigging by loosening the starboard shrouds 6 turns, and the backstay 10 turns when I take the rig down. That way it should be quick to set it up the next time. However I forgot to tape the inner turnbuckles last time and lost my careful adjustments. Could do away with the A-frame, but the mast with jib and CDI furler weighs 70 lb! I also took some extra time to tape the ends of my battens. The outboard was already on the boat, so didn't need to be handled. Even so, I don't see how I will ever setup in less than 2 hours.
What am I missing? I'm reluctant to take this boat anywhere other than my local lake, as it's just too much work! It's a shame because it performs so well on the water!
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