My SCAMP trailer has the “outside the beam“ guides which really helps center the boat when retrieving singlehanded. Easy bolt on aftermarket upgrade if your trailer doesn’t already have them, highly recommended. Rusty www.rustyknorr.weebly.com
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Rollers (John Schinnerer) 2. rollers (whitsonalan@aol.com) 3. Re: rollers (Peter Zimowsky) 4. Re: rollers (casioqv@usermail.com) 5. Re: trailer keel guides (Dave Scobie)
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 20:18:35 -0700 From: John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Rollers Message-ID: <5b2bb372-b478-7744-abd8-dd3f1bf5f62e@eco-living.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
A couple years ago in looking at options for a trailer for my M17 I called a company that used to make a lot of roller trailers, can't recall the name just now but they were the main roller trailer builders back in the day it seemed.
The guy I communicated with said they hadn't made any roller trailers for years now (not for sailboats at least).
A friend had a Ranger 20 on a roller trailer for a few years. It was a nice trailer in good shape.
The advantage I saw was in being able to get the boat off and on the trailer when the trailer couldn't go deep enough to fully float it off of a bunk-type trailer.
And, it did deform the hull slightly in one or two places, even when loaded as well as could be managed.
cheers, john
On 7/18/20 6:58 AM, Dave Scobie wrote: Alan:
I recommend duplicating what exists. On the older TrailRite trailers the sloped roller helps guide the boat to the center.
The clearish yellow or orange rollers leave less marks and seem to stand up to sunlight better than the black rubber.
Just to confirm - keep the hull bunkboards. Don't convert the trailer to something like an EZRoller. This setup will damage the hull as it crates pressure points - seen it, fixed it and replaced a M15 trailer that was all rollers and no bunkboards.
:: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020, 8:57 PM Alan via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
I?m in the process of refurbishing the trailer for our M15 and was wondering about opinions on rollers. The trailer currently has the standard tapered type. I?m thinking of switching to a flat type that the keel might set more squarely on. Thanks , Alan
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Message: 2 Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 12:27:23 +0000 (UTC) From: whitsonalan@aol.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: rollers Message-ID: <550354597.5419954.1595420843345@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
I posted a question recently about the trailer on our Monty 15. Does anyone have an opinion about the keel rollers. The one the go under the center of the boat. The ones on our trailer are the traditional black rubber ones that tapper to a point in the middle. Of course the Monty has no point so the boat does not set centered on them. Thanks for your patience. Alan?
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Message: 3 Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 06:59:14 -0600 From: Peter Zimowsky <rapidz@mac.com> To: whitsonalan@aol.com, For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: rollers Message-ID: <813277A4-E073-44B4-BC87-B306028AE65D@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Hi: I have bunk boards and the black rubber keel rollers but they don?t really roll, just support the keel. The problem I found with loading my M15 that on certain slanted ramps or with the waves or current coming a certain way, the keel ends up off center on the roller. I?m careful not to let that happen. And back the boat back in the water. Since I?m solo boating and trying to load the boat back on the trailer, if it?s going on crooked, I ask someone on the dock to pull on a stern line as I?m pulling the boat out of the water. For some reason the boat aways wants to go to the left side of the trailer off center. So, I have someone pull hard on the right side on the stern line and it usually centers the boat. In my 157 times of loading the boat, this is fairly common. If I?m alone, I tie the stern line on the dock snuggly, then jump in the car and pull the boat out about a foot and it usually centers. Then I untie the stern line and drive the boat out of the water. I did, ONCE, forget the stern line and pulled the boat out of the water. Luckily the line broke and the hardware didn?t break.
Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky)
outdoors writer and photographer www.getoutdoorsnorthwest.com <http://www.getoutdoorsnorthwest.com/> Twitter: @zimosoutdoors
The clearest way into the Universe is through a forest wilderness ? John Muir
On Jul 22, 2020, at 6:27 AM, Alan via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
I posted a question recently about the trailer on our Monty 15. Does anyone have an opinion about the keel rollers. The one the go under the center of the boat. The ones on our trailer are the traditional black rubber ones that tapper to a point in the middle. Of course the Monty has no point so the boat does not set centered on them. Thanks for your patience. Alan
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Message: 4 Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 08:11:12 -0700 (PDT) From: casioqv@usermail.com To: Peter Zimowsky <rapidz@mac.com>, For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: rollers Message-ID: <1007615415.8035619.1595430672518.JavaMail.zimbra@usermail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
On my M15 trailer the previous owner made a keel guide with two pieces of flexible black polyethylene pipe. One end it bolted vertically on either side of the keel, and they curve up and bolt at the bottom aft end of the bunk boards. This is probably a $5 and 10 minute job, but it perfectly aligns the keel and centers the boat on the trailer effortlessly.
Sincerely, Tyler '81 M15 #157 S/V Defiant
----- Original Message ----- From: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> To: whitsonalan@aol.com, "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 5:59:14 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: rollers
Hi: I have bunk boards and the black rubber keel rollers but they don?t really roll, just support the keel. The problem I found with loading my M15 that on certain slanted ramps or with the waves or current coming a certain way, the keel ends up off center on the roller. I?m careful not to let that happen. And back the boat back in the water. Since I?m solo boating and trying to load the boat back on the trailer, if it?s going on crooked, I ask someone on the dock to pull on a stern line as I?m pulling the boat out of the water. For some reason the boat aways wants to go to the left side of the trailer off center. So, I have someone pull hard on the right side on the stern line and it usually centers the boat. In my 157 times of loading the boat, this is fairly common. If I?m alone, I tie the stern line on the dock snuggly, then jump in the car and pull the boat out about a foot and it usually centers. Then I untie the stern line and drive the boat out of the water. I did, ONCE, forget the stern line and pulled the boat out of the water. Luckily the line broke and the hardware didn?t break.
Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky)
outdoors writer and photographer www.getoutdoorsnorthwest.com <http://www.getoutdoorsnorthwest.com/> Twitter: @zimosoutdoors
The clearest way into the Universe is through a forest wilderness ? John Muir
On Jul 22, 2020, at 6:27 AM, Alan via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
I posted a question recently about the trailer on our Monty 15. Does anyone have an opinion about the keel rollers. The one the go under the center of the boat. The ones on our trailer are the traditional black rubber ones that tapper to a point in the middle. Of course the Monty has no point so the boat does not set centered on them. Thanks for your patience. Alan
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Message: 5 Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 08:50:58 -0700 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: trailer keel guides Message-ID: <CAGjBOA6amXkKnBR2ixe+5hW7Kn=Rv8fUku1iRk6dyJzr-Ngovw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Tyler describes a great solution. Here is a link to the MSOGphotosite that outlines examples of trailer keel guides -
http://msogphotosite.com/Scripts/General/generalsearch.php?searchstring=Guid...
:: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/
On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 8:13 AM <casioqv@usermail.com> wrote:
On my M15 trailer the previous owner made a keel guide with two pieces of flexible black polyethylene pipe. One end it bolted vertically on either side of the keel, and they curve up and bolt at the bottom aft end of the bunk boards. This is probably a $5 and 10 minute job, but it perfectly aligns the keel and centers the boat on the trailer effortlessly.
Sincerely, Tyler '81 M15 #157 S/V Defiant
----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 5:59:14 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: rollers
Hi: I have bunk boards and the black rubber keel rollers but they don?t really roll, just support the keel. The problem I found with loading my M15 that on certain slanted ramps or with the waves or current coming a certain way, the keel ends up off center on the roller. I?m careful not to let that happen. And back the boat back in the water. Since I?m solo boating and trying to load the boat back on the trailer, if it?s going on crooked, I ask someone on the dock to pull on a stern line as I?m pulling the boat out of the water. For some reason the boat aways wants to go to the left side of the trailer off center. So, I have someone pull hard on the right side on the stern line and it usually centers the boat. In my 157 times of loading the boat, this is fairly common. If I?m alone, I tie the stern line on the dock snuggly, then jump in the car and pull the boat out about a foot and it usually centers. Then I untie the stern line and drive the boat out of the water. I did, ONCE, forget the stern line and pulled the boat out of the water. Luckily the line broke and the hardware didn?t break.
Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky)
outdoors writer and photographer www.getoutdoorsnorthwest.com <http://www.getoutdoorsnorthwest.com/> Twitter: @zimosoutdoors
The clearest way into the Universe is through a forest wilderness ? John Muir
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