Thanks to all for their input on this topic. It was very helpful! Gerry
On Mar 31, 2017, at 10:16 AM, Mark Dvorscak <mdvorscak56@gmail.com> wrote:
My 1979 M23 has steel ballast. At least that is what the magnet held against​ the keel indicates. I removed old bottom paint then barrier coated and applied new paint prior to committing her to long (6-12 months) salt water immersions. It was not a pleasant job but I couldn't afford to hire it out. I also did bottom paint on my M17 when I had her. And removed bottom paint from my M15 when I got her (she lives on her trailer and only day sails).
Mark Dvorscak M23 Faith M15 ~~~
On Mar 29, 2017 16:11, "Gerald Wyatt" <wyattgs@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Dave,
Thanks. Did Jerry use steel or lead on the M23s? The old brochure on the MSOG Photo Site indicates lead, but I have heard stories of steel ballast in them. I think Dauntless had her ballast changed out.
Just curious if you knew with all your time working with the boats.
Gerry
On Mar 29, 2017, at 3:55 PM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Gerry:
SWEET PEA has steel ballast and cast iron keel. she is one of the first boats with the 'version 2' deck - no transom cutout, three cockpit lockers, slightly taller house and smaller companionway.
the steel to lead transition was middle/late 80s
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On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Gerald Wyatt <wyattgs@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Dave,
I would appreciate that contact information and thanks for the perspective. Did the 1983 model have steel ballast? I can't remember when Jerry moved to lead...
Gerry
On Mar 29, 2017, at 3:22 PM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Gerry:
has the boat ever been in-water moored for and extended time? my M17, 1983 model, spent over 20 years stored in-water in Quartermaster Harbor, Vashon Island, for 6-9 months at a stretch (ie, the season). she doesn't have blisters. she has anti-fouling bottom paint. the cast iron board was refurbished by the prior owner about 2006/7.
if the boat has a history of being 'wet' stored and doesn't have blisters it is very unlikely she will get blisters
you MUST bottom paint the boat. remember ... you get busy the weekend you plan to clean the unpainted bottom and delay a week ... then another ... and then another. you then have a SERIOUS problem and a damaged bottom.
i know some folks in Port Townsend at Boat Haven Marina that can do the work. if PT isn't to far let me know and i'll share contact information.
:: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - http://www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage 17 #1 - AIR BORN - http://sagemarine.us/sage_17.html :: Sage 15 sloop #001 - ASOLARE - http://sagemarine.us/sage_15.html :: SageCat #000 - SAGECAT - http://sagemarine.us/sagecat.html
On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 4:00 PM, Gerald Wyatt <wyattgs@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Dave,
I am thinking about keeping it in a slip for 6-7 months each year. Stored on the trailer for the winter.
Gerry
> On Mar 29, 2017, at 2:30 PM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote: > > Gerry: > > is the boat kept in a slip or on a trailer? > > :: Dave Scobie > :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred > :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - http://www.m17-375.webs.com > :: Sage 17 #1 - AIR BORN - http://sagemarine.us/sage_17.html > :: Sage 15 sloop #001 - ASOLARE - http://sagemarine.us/sage_15.html > :: SageCat #000 - SAGECAT - http://sagemarine.us/sagecat.html > >> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Gerald Wyatt <wyattgs@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I would appreciate it if anyone could share information on where they have >> had work done to repair or maintain their Montgomery 17 or 23 keel and >> centerboard (cast iron version) in the Pacific Northwest. I would also be >> curious to learn of experiences related to barrier coat applications and >> bottom paint. >> >> Any info on the quality or work, knowledge, and professionalism would be >> appreciated. >> >> Thank you! >> >> Gerry Wyatt >> M17 #201 >>