Even my itty bitty Potter flies full main and lapper at 12 knots, and lots of fun it is. I don't think I could fly any sort of jib on the wind at 30 knots sustained (main with its single reef in), but I believe I've handled gusts of that strength, on the flatwater lakes that are available to me. Your right, one best be payin' attention then! Downwind, I'd guess that a working jib, all 23 sf, would make the most sense, assuming you had some miles to go to make dropping the main worth while. I think I'll get to sail this weekend-yee ha! Steve Tyree, P-15 #2098 "Amy Ann" In a message dated 3/17/2004 7:25:26 PM Central Standard Time, haudsley@tranquility.net writes: At 12 knots of wind, I'd be doing 5 to 5.2 knots boat speed flying the full main and a 150% and maybe heeled 10 to 15 degrees and hoping for a bit more breeze. Somewhere in there, the rudder and boat in general start to hum and quiver as the boat starts to plane and the speed jumps up to nearly 6 knots. Too much fun!! But at 30 knots, that all changes. By that point I'm down to a double reefed main and storm jib, and still heeled 20 degrees or more. Things move fast and with force. It's still fun....but in these conditions, one better pay attention to what's going on or the pucker factor may get tested!