David, On our M17 I had the same question regarding the 110 working jib. I experimented and found it worked best for me when attached at the deck. Also, seeing the boat under sail with the jib attached low looked to funnel air optimally to the mainsail. Sounds like your mast slot is below the boom? On our 17 the mast slot is above the boom and I have the problem of the sail slugs falling out when lowering the main. In either case you can use a sail-stop to keep the mast up (or sail slugs) from falling out. Or, I use 2 wraps of 1/4 shock cord around the mast in a loop like a rubber band. The shock cord can be slid up/down the mast as needed and doesn't fall overboard. I need the 2 - 3 lower sail slugs to come out of the mast track for reefing and the shock cord is flexible enough to reach up and pull them out. When we lived in Idaho Falls we sailed Jackson Lake with our Laguna but never with our Montgomery. Beautiful lake! Randy Graves M17 #410 Post Falls, ID ________________________________________ From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of David Schuster [davids@mmfcpa.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:54 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Maiden Voyage of our M17 We set sail on the maiden voyage of our M17, Excursive, this past weekend. We put in at Jackson Lake, WY and had a wonderful 2 day sail on the lake with the Tetons in the back ground. We live within several hours of Jackson Lake so will sail there on weekends until Yellowstone Lake opens for overnight stays. I have several questions for the group. 1. Concerning the front stay and jib, we hank on our jib, it falls short by 12" or so from reaching the top of the mast. I was wondering what others have done to length the tack cringle attachment. This is where the jib attached at the bow deck point. 2. I need to adjust the main sail boom so the sail does not fall out during reefing or taking down the main sail. Any ideas? On our past sail boat, Nimble 20, the boom was fixed to a point on the mast and this was not an issue. In a strong wind, it's a bit unsettling to have the main sail come out of the track. 3. When we were out Saturday we noticed another Montgomery 15 or 17, to far away to id, motoring on the lake. If anyone has info on the owner we would like to know. 4. We have the burp issue as well. 5. As far as accommodations, my wife and I slept in the v-berth and my son, 19 and 6'4, slept in the quarter berth. We all had plenty of room. New boat, first night out there's always plenty of room, we'll see as the summer progresses. Over all the boat is great to sail and handle. David Schuster, MCSE, MCP+I Client Services for Information Technology McKee, Marburger & Fagnant, P.C. 185 South 5th Street Lander, Wyoming 82520 Bus: 307-332-4545 Fax: 307-332-3271 Dir: 307-332-1782 <mailto:davids@mmfcpa.com> davids@mmfcpa.com Get the latest tax information by visiting our web site: <http://www.mmfcpa.com> www.mmfcpa.com CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE This communication may contain information relative to federal tax issues. This communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed by the Internal Revenue Service. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This communication and the information it contains is intended for the person or organization to whom it is addressed. Its contents are confidential. Unauthorized use, copying or disclosure of any of it may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact us immediately. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats