Bob, Interesting problem. I bought my mast crutch after my rudder, and used the picture of the "Latitude" installation on the Ruddercraft website as a guide. The bottom bolt appeared to be mounted so the receptacle is flush with the bottom of the rudder mount. Now the website also shows a picture of Gary's Hydeaway 2, where the crutch is mounted starboard rather than port. The bottom bolt appears to be at the top of the rudder mount (the nearly circular stainless plates) instead of the bottom, raising the whole unit out of the water, and raising the mast higher for stepping. I believe I will have the opportunity to look at both boats in person this summer, so my decision about modification will be a lot easier. All this being said, the rudder/crutch assembly is the "bees' knees" for an M17 Thanks for your input. Tom Jenkins Scintilla On May 14, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Bob Eeg wrote:
Tom....I think your bottom Square tube is installed too low. Move it up out of the water.
You might have to drill a new hole (use a Drill Press) and/or install a push pin.
Bob
From: tjenk@gte.net Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 11:49:03 -0700 To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: trailering with rudder assembly in place M15
Since Bob brings the subject up, I am wondering what you out there with IdaSailor rudders and mast carrier options do with the bolted-on mast carrier receptacles when you are in the water. I have been sliding the carrier head/round tube and the long piece of square tubing out, and unbolting just the lower of the two receptacles (larger square tubing) because it is underwater. Is the turbulence over the lower receptacle low enough that I can leave it on all the time as well? I think some you might also leave the long piece of square tubing on while sailing, even though it sticks up a few inches above the rudder head. That would make the whole thing easy--just pull the pin and slide the round tube and carrier head out before launching. Thanks, Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla
On May 14, 2011, at 10:38 AM, Bob Eeg wrote:
Hi Smiley
That wouldn't work. Mainly because the M_15 rudder isn't made by Idasailor.
1. Besides, it Folds AFT, so too trailer the boat with the rudder on would require the rudder blade to stick out aft about 3 feet. Not a good idea. It's too long to leave in the down position.
2. Idasailor doesn't make a mast carrier that attaches to the 15 rudder. They do make a nice set up for the M_17 folding rudder (it folds UP while trailering) That mast carrier assembly bolts fittings on the existing rudder bar (steel) and slides up and out when you launch the boat.
3. On the M_15 remove the rudder and install the rear mast carrier in the Gudgeons; place a cotter pin thru the hole to prevent the mast carrier from jumping out with you hit a Bump in the Road.
Fair winds Bob
From: magoo252@comcast.net To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 08:15:40 -0400 Subject: M_Boats: trailering with rudder assembly in place M15
Anybody have thoughts on this subject and while we are at it is an IDA rudder worth the investment for a M 15? Thanks Smiley
Smiley
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