Hey Robbin I am having my 1 piece M17 rudder modified to kick up by J.O.Woodworks in East Tx. He was at the Havasu Pocket Cruisers in Feb And does QUALITY WORK. The cost of freight may br a deal killer depending on where you live. Eldor M17 Motu iti -----Original Message----- From: robbin roddewig <robbin.roddewig@verizon.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sat, Apr 17, 2010 10:52 am Subject: M_Boats: kick up rudder for M dink and M-17 I have been considering modifying my rudders to allow beaching and kick up (rather than pop off or tear off) for my M-10 and M-17. I had issues last fall with my M-17 rudder hitting bottom and popping out of the grundgeons and leaving the boat, well, rudderless. I am rebuilding my M-10 rudder so modifying it would be first on my list. Can anyone point to some information on modifying the rudders? Thanks in advance Robbin _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!