Jim, I have used the sheet to tiller steering quite successfully on my M15. It works well to about 100 deg off the wind. I saved on old jib and use two jibs as twin headsails and this works well off the wind but didn't have enough sail area for lighter winds. I built a wind vane (non-Pendulum) steering system which also seemed to work but I did not permanently mount it and my temporary mounting had to much friction in the lines to be sure. The M15 is so sensitive to weight that none of the above actually allow you to randomly move about the boat and still hold a course very well. Weight shifts will even drive an autohelm crazy and make it work hard. I use remote steering for long sessions of motoring and it works very well on the M15, is cheap, and effective but requires you to still steer. You can let go of the steering long enough to dive into the cabin and grab stuff. Thanks Doug Kelch Jim Sadler <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> wrote: Have any of you skippers installed self steering on your M-15? I once had Aries windvane on my 32 ft Islander and it worked very well. I am considering installing self steering on the Pelican but don't know what is out there on the horizon. Captain James Albert Sadler skipper sailing vessel Pelican M-15 jimsadler@jascopacific.com _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats --------------------------------- Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links.