Holding the boom up and out of the way to one side or the other while moored or anchored or in a slip is nice to have. What's much more essential, though, is being able to hold the boom up and off to one side or the other while hove to in a rising wind and putting in a reef. cheers, John S. On 05/19/2016 10:24 AM, Jazzy wrote:
Ahh I see. Never thought of holding it up AND out. It's never really felt that much in the way, but something to tuck away in the back of my mind! Jazz On May 19, 2016 10:20 AM, "John Schinnerer" <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
Yeah, I have a cord with clip on the backstay ring that can clip to the butterfly at end of boom and hold the boom up - but only on the centerline of the boat. So when anchored and moving about the cockpit, or needing to reef, etc., the boom can't be off-center and still held up. Topping lift (or boomkicker) holds it up in any position.
cheers, John S.
On 05/19/2016 12:44 AM, Jazzy wrote:
I don't know if this qualifies, but I have a little metal blade that's screwed on the back stay, like a finger shape. The boom end has a short loop of line. Hook it on the finger and put the sail up.
Jazz On May 18, 2016 10:46 PM, "Ron McNeil via montgomery_boats" < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
John, I suggest #3 but suggest a clip on the end so you can remove it from
the boom after raising your sail. You also don't need a block or cleat unless you want to quickly adjust the height while the sail is down. I have mine permanently attached to the top of the mast. On the end that attaches to the boom I have a simple Block with a V-Jam cleat so I can adjust the height. That's attached to a clip which attaches to the boom. While sailing I take it off the boom and clip it on the foot of the mast.
Regards, Ron McNeil Jackpot/M17/#675
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On May 18, 2016, at 9:41 PM, John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net>
wrote:
Thanks all for the rapid response on the topping lift question.
BTW re Dave's setup (thanks for thorough directions and picture as
well!), clamcleat now makes a whole line of cleats specifically for inline use - no need to drill out the holes on a standard surface mount one:
http://www.clamcleat.com/cleats/cleats.asp?menuid=9
I will ponder the boomkicker...but right now that $135 probably needs to
go to higher priority item$ and I'll likely go with option 3 for the time being, either Dave-style with a one-hand inline clamcleat or with a cleat on the boom.
thanks again, John S.
On 05/18/2016 05:12 PM, George Iemmolo wrote:
I use method #1 and lead the topping lift to the cockpit on the Port
side
so as to to make it as easy as possible to manage.
By the way I use a Boomkicker also. I am a belt a suspender kind of guy
George "We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 7:01 PM, Keith R. Martin < keith.richard.martin@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi John, > > I prefer #3, which is how Serenity was rigged when I got her... The > only
change I made was to move the cleat on the boom forward to about 2/3
> of the
way towards the mast. Even with the out-haul and the reefing lines I
> felt
there was enough room to do a tidy job....
> > Keith > > *Keith R. Martin, P.Eng.* > > *Burnaby, B.C. CanadaSerenity,** M17 Hull #353* > > > > On 18 May 2016 at 15:19, John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I'm going to put a topping lift on Pajarita. >> I have various examples to go by I've seen on other boats, and, if >> > anyone
here has added a topping lift, my basic question is what's your
>> > experience > >> of the simplest easiest to use approach. >> >> The first two are just a matter of which hardware up top - in both >> > cases
it's the standard line up the mast and then down to end of boom:
>> >> 1) cheek block on side of mast at top, or... >> 2) eye strap with hanging block on side of mast at top >> >> Or, a different approach: >> >> 3) line fast at top of mast and adjust with cleat on boom. >> >> Of 1 and 2, I imagine the cheek block is quieter and simpler but >> maybe >> there's advantages to the swivel/swing available with the block hung >> > from
eye strap?
>> >> Then, 3 seems overall simpler and can be put on/off and adjusted >> > while in
the cockpit. But also it adds another line and cleat on the boom, and
>> > I
don't want to add too much complication there because of existing
>> > reefing & > >> outhaul lines & cleats. >> >> cheers, >> John S. >> >> -- >> John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design >> -------------------------------------------- >> - Eco-Living - >> Whole Systems Design Services >> People - Place - Learning - Integration >> john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 >> http://eco-living.net >> http://sociocracyconsulting.com >> > -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design
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