Those are pretty cool looking. And only 20#!! If it could push a Monty you could tow a dinghy and use it for that as well. I had a British SeaGull 40plus. It was rated at, I think, 2 hp. I used it for my dinghy and it was bullet proof. I also put it on a 12' aluminum jon boat and got about 3kts. I also used it on a friends 10' dinghy to bridle up to his 39' wooden Danish ketch to move it to the haul out. It actually pushed that 7 ton beast with ease. It was all torque. I would have used it on my M17 but it got stolen out of my daughter's driveway. She said it was so ugly ....who'd steal it. I told her anyone that knows what they are. Like someone said here, it looked like a weedeater with a prop. I loved it. It reminded me so much of my VW bug. Engineering simplicity. Sure, it was noisy, smelly, and with a ratio of 25:1 (or maybe 40:1) it made it easy to follow with the slick. But other than that..... Joe SeaFrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: Neil Dorf To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:57 PM Subject: M_Boats: Talk about tiny outboards.... http://www.smalloutboardengines.com anyone ever heard of these before? Air cooled, but they as small as the Seagulls. -Neil